1 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:05,510 you're looking to fade to flag with 2 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:08,810 jimmy church on the game changer network 3 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,790 good evening 4 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,029 fade to black 5 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:26,870 radio 6 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:27,759 for 7 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:28,800 the 8 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:31,280 masses 9 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:34,479 uh yeah how you doing today's tuesday 10 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:36,800 tuesday june 28 11 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:39,790 2012 12 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:49,520 [Music] 13 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:50,960 i would like to welcome everybody 14 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:52,800 listening all around the world all 15 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:55,440 across the united states 16 00:05:59,430 --> 00:05:57,440 hither and tether to and fro back and 17 00:06:02,390 --> 00:05:59,440 forth up and down east and west north 18 00:06:05,830 --> 00:06:02,400 and south far and near 19 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:05,840 this is fade to black for kjcr the game 20 00:06:10,629 --> 00:06:08,400 changer in nx networks 21 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:10,639 racehobbs i am your host jimmy church 22 00:06:16,629 --> 00:06:13,520 what is cracking everybody good evening 23 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:20,230 tonight 24 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:23,189 we welcome very special guests and i am 25 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:27,280 excited robert grant is with us 26 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:28,960 he's here for the first time and i'm 27 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:32,160 gonna say it it's about time 28 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:34,639 a lot of conversation gonna go down 29 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:36,000 tonight 30 00:06:43,029 --> 00:06:40,080 centered around the concealed codes 31 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:43,039 that's right tomorrow night 32 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:45,600 ralph blumenthal of the new york times 33 00:06:50,550 --> 00:06:49,039 is with us he is back and then thursday 34 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:50,560 nights another fader night with open 35 00:06:55,189 --> 00:06:52,639 lines all night long 36 00:06:58,070 --> 00:06:55,199 all right 37 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:00,790 so excited i mean 38 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:03,520 you know and and all day today uh i had 39 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:06,000 so much stuff to do and 40 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:07,360 and uh 41 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:10,560 uh a million phone calls and work and 42 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:13,599 writing and and and things you know 43 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:16,160 setting up uh the future and doing all 44 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:17,680 of that and getting ready for today's 45 00:07:21,589 --> 00:07:18,639 show 46 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:21,599 and i was just snappy and happy you know 47 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:24,639 all day long all day long 48 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:25,680 it's uh 49 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:27,680 i'm in one of those moods i'm in one of 50 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:29,039 those moods plus 51 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:31,840 i got parts uh shipped to me today for a 52 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:35,120 guitar that i'm working on right now and 53 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:37,520 everything fits 54 00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:39,039 and you know what 55 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:41,759 that'll put you in a good mood too 56 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:43,440 so uh 57 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:45,120 yeah it's gonna be a while before you 58 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:46,720 guys see this guitar it's gonna take a 59 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:49,280 lot of work but uh it's pretty special 60 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:52,400 and uh and i'm excited about that uh you 61 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:54,319 know with the guests over at the house 62 00:07:58,950 --> 00:07:56,000 this weekend 63 00:08:02,070 --> 00:07:58,960 everybody wants to see the bunker and 64 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:02,080 uh probably six seven eight uh 65 00:08:06,950 --> 00:08:04,319 friends that were over had never seen 66 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:06,960 the bunker so they you know you gotta do 67 00:08:09,029 --> 00:08:07,759 it 68 00:08:10,869 --> 00:08:09,039 and 69 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:10,879 they wanna see the bunker i wanna show 70 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:14,000 them the guitar that i'm working on now 71 00:08:18,309 --> 00:08:15,919 it's really funny 72 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:18,319 i'm so proud of it but anyway we've got 73 00:08:24,790 --> 00:08:20,960 a lot to get through tonight 74 00:08:26,950 --> 00:08:24,800 and uh lots of breaking news things are 75 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:26,960 are happening around the world so 76 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:29,840 uh we'll get to all of that i want to 77 00:08:35,909 --> 00:08:32,800 remind everybody that uh please visit 78 00:08:37,829 --> 00:08:35,919 our sponsors on this show this is what 79 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:37,839 uh keeps us on the air and keeps this 80 00:08:42,469 --> 00:08:40,719 thing moving along and all of our 81 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:42,479 sponsors are 82 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:44,800 listed below they're 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france and russia oh um before i 132 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:39,200 get to russia 133 00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:43,440 um i have been looking at the 134 00:10:49,670 --> 00:10:47,040 images and the videos of the lights uh 135 00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:49,680 in the sky over the ocean down uh near 136 00:10:54,389 --> 00:10:51,600 san diego that have been 137 00:10:56,230 --> 00:10:54,399 seen north of san diego all the way down 138 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:56,240 into mexico 139 00:11:00,790 --> 00:10:58,959 and uh i i think they're going on again 140 00:11:02,550 --> 00:11:00,800 tonight but the 141 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:02,560 san diego police department is saying 142 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:04,480 that they're flares and i guess the 143 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:05,920 lifeguard 144 00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:10,720 sitting out there are saying that 145 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:13,200 they're military flares but the military 146 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:15,200 says no they are not we're not 147 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:17,680 practicing any military exercises out 148 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:19,920 there so i don't know what's going on 149 00:11:22,230 --> 00:11:21,200 and 150 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:22,240 um 151 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:24,160 some of the video 152 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:26,399 that i have seen 153 00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:29,440 looks a lot closer like these 154 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:31,519 that are they possibly moving or are 155 00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:33,600 they going on in two different 156 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:36,320 uh places at the same time because the 157 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:39,279 shots down in mexico look just as close 158 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:41,760 and as compelling as the ones taken up 159 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:43,360 in san diego 160 00:11:48,630 --> 00:11:46,000 so maybe military flares and they are 161 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:48,640 orange and and i get that 162 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:51,120 but uh pretty strange that the military 163 00:11:54,629 --> 00:11:52,480 is denying 164 00:11:56,949 --> 00:11:54,639 uh when everybody out there is panicking 165 00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:56,959 right it's pretty interesting so 166 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:00,079 uh no conclusions yet but i am keeping 167 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:03,120 my eye on things all right back to 168 00:12:08,829 --> 00:12:04,720 russia 169 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:08,839 has fined 170 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:11,760 twitch pinterest 171 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:13,760 airbnb 172 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:16,480 and ups 173 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:19,920 for refusing to store personal data 174 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:22,320 collected from russian users 175 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:25,600 on servers where the russian government 176 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:27,600 could have access 177 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:28,560 to 178 00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:30,880 the private information 179 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:32,639 the tech companies were fined two 180 00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:36,320 million rubles and ups was fined one 181 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:39,680 million rubles at current exchange rates 182 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:42,160 that means twitch pinterest and 183 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:46,079 airbnb have been fined approximately 37 184 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:46,880 000 185 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:50,560 each and ups has been fined a little 186 00:12:55,350 --> 00:12:53,440 over 18 000 187 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:55,360 all of the companies have refused to 188 00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:57,839 give russia any information 189 00:13:02,310 --> 00:13:00,560 on russian citizens 190 00:13:05,269 --> 00:13:02,320 very interesting well 191 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:05,279 the fbi in the news 192 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:07,920 the fbi wrote to its internet crime 193 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:10,480 complaint center today 194 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:12,959 that it has received multiple complaints 195 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:16,000 of people using stolen information 196 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:17,680 and deep 197 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:18,720 faked 198 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:20,480 video 199 00:13:23,509 --> 00:13:21,760 that's right 200 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:23,519 to apply 201 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:24,959 to remote 202 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:27,040 tech jobs 203 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:28,800 deep fakes you knew this stuff was going 204 00:13:32,949 --> 00:13:30,800 to start happening according to the 205 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:32,959 fbi's announcement 206 00:13:37,110 --> 00:13:34,720 more companies have been reporting 207 00:13:39,509 --> 00:13:37,120 people applying to jobs using video 208 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:39,519 images or recordings that are 209 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:42,240 manipulated to look and sound like 210 00:13:46,110 --> 00:13:43,680 somebody else 211 00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:46,120 these fakers are also using personal 212 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:48,399 identifiable information from other 213 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:50,560 people's stolen identities 214 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:53,360 to apply to jobs at it programming 215 00:13:58,470 --> 00:13:55,600 database and software firms 216 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:58,480 the report noted that many of these open 217 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:01,440 positions had access to sensitive 218 00:14:06,949 --> 00:14:04,480 customer or employee data as well as 219 00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:06,959 financial and proprietary company info 220 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:09,839 implying the imposters could have a 221 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:13,120 desire to steal sensitive information 222 00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:15,600 as well as cash 223 00:14:21,590 --> 00:14:18,800 a fraudulent paycheck 224 00:14:23,990 --> 00:14:21,600 very interesting well now check this out 225 00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:24,000 fader knots 226 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:25,360 attention 227 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:27,040 fader knots 228 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:30,320 you don't need an astronomy degree to 229 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:34,560 become a jovian vortex hunter 230 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:36,000 in fact 231 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:38,000 scientists need your help and the 232 00:14:42,629 --> 00:14:40,639 university of minnesota twin cities has 233 00:14:44,949 --> 00:14:42,639 made it simple to gain access to 234 00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:44,959 thousands of images taken from nasa's 235 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:47,600 juno spacecraft you can then sift 236 00:14:52,389 --> 00:14:50,079 through the images to help researchers 237 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:52,399 classify jupiter's atmospheric 238 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:54,000 conditions 239 00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:56,160 it's all part of a new citizen science 240 00:15:00,870 --> 00:14:58,639 project led by the university all you 241 00:15:03,509 --> 00:15:00,880 need is access to the internet 242 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:03,519 and the time to go through a simple 243 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:06,959 training the program is is 244 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:09,360 even enable the pros to write an 245 00:15:14,230 --> 00:15:11,760 algorithm that can speed up future 246 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:14,240 identification of jupiter's atmospheric 247 00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:15,360 features 248 00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:19,920 to start hunting jovian vortices 249 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:23,120 no experience needed all you got to do 250 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:26,160 is go to zuniverse.org 251 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:31,120 z o o n i v e r s e dot org 252 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:34,160 today go and do it i did today actually 253 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:35,040 okay 254 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:42,069 martian rock samples 255 00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:45,680 collected by nasa's curiosity mars rover 256 00:15:50,629 --> 00:15:48,880 show signs of key ingredients 257 00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:50,639 for life 258 00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:55,920 earth the curiosity rover drilled 259 00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:58,160 samples from gale crater 260 00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:01,680 and the site of ancient lakes on mars 261 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:03,759 using three samples 262 00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:05,920 scientists were able for the first time 263 00:16:09,749 --> 00:16:08,720 to measure the total amount of organic 264 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:09,759 carbon 265 00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:11,680 in martian rocks 266 00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:15,040 organic carbon which is carbon bound to 267 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:16,880 a hydrogen atom 268 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:20,079 is a prerequisite for organic molecules 269 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:24,160 created and used by all known forms of 270 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:25,120 life 271 00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:26,880 this is big news 272 00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:30,079 now in addition to organic carbon 273 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:32,720 the researchers identified other signs 274 00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:34,560 suggesting gale crater may have once 275 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:38,079 supported life including the presence of 276 00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:41,040 chemical energy sources and chemical 277 00:16:46,389 --> 00:16:44,399 compounds such as oxygen nitrogen and 278 00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:46,399 sulfur and 279 00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:48,399 low acidity 280 00:16:52,870 --> 00:16:50,480 it's big news 281 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:52,880 yep yep yep yep et's gonna be announced 282 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:55,120 for mars first you watch we're not alone 283 00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:57,040 in the universe 284 00:16:59,990 --> 00:16:58,160 you watch 285 00:17:01,110 --> 00:17:00,000 we're we're getting there now this next 286 00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:01,120 story 287 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:03,440 uh this news broke today and and i'm 288 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:05,760 gonna tell you the accompanying image i 289 00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,120 don't have it here 290 00:17:11,189 --> 00:17:09,600 uh somebody's gonna pop it up in in 291 00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:11,199 twitter in just a second 292 00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:13,199 but the image is one of the most 293 00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:15,439 incredible things i've ever seen in my 294 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:19,039 life it's because a near perfectly 295 00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:20,640 mummified 296 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,439 30 000 year old baby woolly mammoth has 297 00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:27,760 been unearthed from canadian permafrost 298 00:17:32,390 --> 00:17:30,840 by a minor in the klondike region's gold 299 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:32,400 fields 300 00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:35,520 the stunningly preserved baby which 301 00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:38,000 measured four and a half feet long 302 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:41,520 and still had much of its hair and skin 303 00:17:47,669 --> 00:17:44,720 intact was described by officials as the 304 00:17:48,549 --> 00:17:47,679 most complete mummified mammoth found 305 00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:48,559 ever 306 00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:50,559 in north america 307 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,039 now as the discovery was made in eureka 308 00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:55,760 creek on the land of the first nation in 309 00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:59,679 canada's yukon the animal has been named 310 00:18:01,750 --> 00:18:00,720 none 311 00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:01,760 cho 312 00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:04,640 ga or big baby animal in the han 313 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:06,880 language the photograph 314 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:08,480 looks like 315 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:10,880 this this baby woolly mammoth died 316 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:12,240 yesterday 317 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:15,440 it's an incredible image incredible 318 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,960 fossils now here we go this is uh 319 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:20,880 tipping things in the other direction 320 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:22,480 very quickly 321 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:24,720 because fossils of human ancestors from 322 00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:28,320 south african cave are 3.4 million to 323 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:31,520 3.6 million years old 324 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:34,080 making them a million years older than 325 00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:36,559 previously suspected and shaking up the 326 00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:39,039 way researchers understand human origins 327 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:40,799 and evolution 328 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:44,320 the new date makes the sir fontaine cave 329 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:46,240 fossils older than 330 00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:50,000 the famed lucy fossil from ethiopia 331 00:18:54,430 --> 00:18:52,799 found in 1979 lucy represented the 332 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:54,440 species 333 00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:57,840 australopithecus and lived 3.2 million 334 00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:00,160 years ago a new study detailing the 335 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:02,880 findings was published monday in the 336 00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:05,679 proceedings of the national academy of 337 00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:09,600 sciences i read through the entire paper 338 00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:12,000 and you've got to go and check it out 339 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:14,480 let's get this show cracking on this day 340 00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:16,799 in history 341 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:19,200 i don't do sports on this show 342 00:19:23,470 --> 00:19:21,760 but i'll do this because 343 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,480 i saw it live 344 00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:25,360 1997 345 00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:29,200 mike tyson bites evander holyfield's ear 346 00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:31,039 in the third round of their heavyweight 347 00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:32,520 match the attack led to his 348 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:34,880 disqualification for the match 349 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:38,880 and suspension from boxing i was with a 350 00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:42,720 doug aldrich that night and we had left 351 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:45,679 uh we left sherman oaks came over the 352 00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:47,600 hill to hollywood to chris frazier's 353 00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:49,039 house the drummer 354 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:51,360 to watch this fight live and we were all 355 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:52,559 excited 356 00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:55,760 and we all watch that together it 357 00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:58,160 like i said i don't do sports but i'll 358 00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:59,280 do that 359 00:20:02,190 --> 00:20:01,520 fader fact 360 00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:02,200 in 361 00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:04,080 1846 362 00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,760 joseph lady was the first person to 363 00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:09,840 solve a crime 364 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:13,120 using a microscope 365 00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:16,320 that's right a farmer claimed the blood 366 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:20,000 on his shirt was chicken blood 367 00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:23,600 and joseph said it wasn't and proved it 368 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:26,080 and then the farmer confessed 369 00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:27,440 to murder 370 00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,960 and that 371 00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:30,720 is your fader fact man we've come a long 372 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:33,360 way since 1846 haven't we tonight 373 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:36,400 very special guest finally on this 374 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:38,720 program robert grant is with us for the 375 00:20:42,549 --> 00:20:40,000 first time 376 00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:42,559 we've got a lot to discuss tonight stay 377 00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,000 right there he's going to be with us at 378 00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:46,400 the bottom of the hour and then tomorrow 379 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:48,080 night ralph blumenthal's going to be 380 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:50,640 with us from the new york times and then 381 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,480 thursday night is another fader night 382 00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,480 with open lines all night long 383 00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:56,480 all right now it's time for me to 384 00:21:03,510 --> 00:20:58,559 hit this river moon coffee oh robert's 385 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:05,590 robert just stopped by all right let me 386 00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:06,799 hit this river moon coffee 387 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:09,280 rivermoonwellness.com 388 00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,240 and 389 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:12,559 this coffee's got my picture on the bag 390 00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:14,320 and when you order it and you get it you 391 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:15,679 will see it's the best coffee in the 392 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:16,480 world 393 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:19,200 and you know it's mine because my mug is 394 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,310 all right 395 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:28,390 one of my favorite questions and i'm 396 00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:30,000 glad that robert's in the green room 397 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:32,480 because um he can nod his head right now 398 00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:34,640 and say yeah this actually happened 399 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,320 uh over the over the weekend um i was 400 00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:40,799 over at a disclosure fest and 401 00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:43,120 and robert and i had a chance to sit 402 00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:45,120 down on stage 403 00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,039 and and just talk 404 00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:49,679 and as we went through the conversation 405 00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:53,679 um i had said to robert and to you know 406 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,080 the the audience there 407 00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:58,480 that one of my favorite questions 408 00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:59,760 to ask 409 00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:01,520 a guest 410 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:04,159 is what is consciousness 411 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:05,520 and 412 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:11,039 audience 413 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:12,799 has heard me 414 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:14,640 ask that question 415 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:16,960 hundreds of times i've done thousands of 416 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:19,520 interviews thousands of shows 417 00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:20,640 and 418 00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:23,440 time 419 00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,159 and so why do i ask this question well i 420 00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:28,320 do it for a lot of reasons 421 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,600 um and and let me explain let me let me 422 00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:33,440 put it to you this way 423 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:36,720 i don't believe 424 00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:39,440 that anybody knows 425 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:42,799 and the more that i ask the question the 426 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:45,520 more that i learn personally 427 00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:47,280 and the answers 428 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,000 tend to overlap and you've got the two 429 00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,600 extremes you've got a bell curve and 430 00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,360 you've got the two extremes but they 431 00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,520 tend to overlap and eventually they just 432 00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:57,360 overlap to the other extreme on the 433 00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:58,640 other side 434 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,080 and 435 00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,559 everything 436 00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,799 is unknown 437 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,799 and that that's that's the strange thing 438 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:08,640 for me now 439 00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:16,549 the way that brian greene 440 00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:18,559 has presented this because physicists 441 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,080 don't want to talk about this scientists 442 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:22,480 don't want to talk about this 443 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:25,840 any of the hard sciences don't want to 444 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,000 it's a challenging question 445 00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,880 and every scientist and everybody that's 446 00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,480 dealing with chemicals and chemistry and 447 00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:34,720 mathematics they know 448 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:36,400 that they are able 449 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:39,360 to ponder the significance 450 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:42,080 of the very small to the very large 451 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:44,000 they are able to think about these 452 00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:45,440 things and 453 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,240 not only the universe but chemistry and 454 00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:50,640 atoms and sizes and things and if they 455 00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:52,720 are able to sit and think and ask 456 00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:56,240 questions and ponder this stuff 457 00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:59,120 what's allowing that to happen 458 00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:01,279 what's allowing them to laugh 459 00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:06,080 to cry to feel emotions right to dream 460 00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:08,159 what is consciousness so they know that 461 00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:11,679 they have the ability to do these things 462 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,919 they just don't know why 463 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:15,760 and it to me it comes down to 464 00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,720 measurement and i understand that where 465 00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:21,120 a physicist or a scientist 466 00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,880 where measurement is so important to be 467 00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:24,559 able to measure these things and go into 468 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,200 a laboratory setting and and repeat and 469 00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:29,760 measure and repeat and verify i get that 470 00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:31,840 and they can't do that 471 00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:33,760 with consciousness 472 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:35,279 so therefore they just don't want to 473 00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:38,720 discuss it because it's a zone 474 00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,679 that they don't have any answers for 475 00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,679 that being said 476 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:46,480 brian greene great physicist 477 00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,200 read all his books 478 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,279 brian green says this 479 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,919 and he's one of the very few physicists 480 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:55,440 that uh 481 00:25:02,549 --> 00:24:56,320 will 482 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:02,559 about it but 483 00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:03,840 he says 484 00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:05,919 that he believes 485 00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,799 that 486 00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:08,799 there could be a little piece of 487 00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:10,799 consciousness 488 00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:13,039 in all particles 489 00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,120 just a little bit 490 00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:17,440 but when you get the particles together 491 00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:20,400 and you get you know a few pounds of 492 00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:23,600 this gray goo between your ears you get 493 00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:26,640 an accumulation of those little pieces 494 00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:28,880 of consciousness and boom 495 00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,559 there you go 496 00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:31,919 well 497 00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,559 i'm sort of cool with that 498 00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:36,159 and i'm cool with that for a couple of 499 00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,919 reasons 500 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:39,600 all right 501 00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:42,880 have you ever yelled at your car 502 00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:45,039 have you ever kicked your car 503 00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:46,720 right 504 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,400 and you come out 505 00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:50,480 you're late for work 506 00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:53,840 you come out you jump in your car you're 507 00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,240 in your driveway and it doesn't start 508 00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:58,880 started the day before it's not starting 509 00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:01,120 now 510 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,919 is that because there's an accumulation 511 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:06,080 of consciousness in the particles of the 512 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,000 car maybe 513 00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,000 so don't yell at your car don't don't 514 00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,720 take chances don't kick it be nice to 515 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,039 your car talk to it 516 00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:17,200 talk to everything 517 00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:20,080 and here's the other thing 518 00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:21,679 just recently 519 00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:23,840 um i'm gonna talk to robert about this 520 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:25,840 uh when he when he joins us in a few 521 00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,440 minutes 522 00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,520 um last week 523 00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:32,240 there was a google engineer that 524 00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:34,960 got put on suspension 525 00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,039 uh because he went to the google 526 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,039 executives and said hey 527 00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:41,200 rai 528 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:47,029 and 529 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:49,760 there was a lot of a lot of pushback on 530 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:52,480 this to the point where he got suspended 531 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,760 from work 532 00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:55,600 i don't know if he's still employed yet 533 00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:57,440 but 534 00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,320 i read through some of the conversations 535 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:02,000 with this ai 536 00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:03,840 and it was very interesting 537 00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:07,039 how the ai talked about itself saying us 538 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:08,799 and humans and us 539 00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:11,520 very strange right okay 540 00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,799 but 541 00:27:16,110 --> 00:27:14,720 is it possible 542 00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,120 that the more 543 00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:18,799 sophisticated that these chipsets are 544 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,679 getting uh two 545 00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:24,080 where now we have 546 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,399 trill an iphone does 3.3 trillion 547 00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,480 calculations per second 548 00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,960 and how many transistors now are on a 549 00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:35,360 chipset and that expands out into the 550 00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:36,720 rest of 551 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:37,919 the circuit 552 00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:40,960 right it's more complicated but each one 553 00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:44,480 of those transistors is is particles and 554 00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,240 atoms accumulated 555 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,559 so is it possible 556 00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:50,880 that conscious consciousness isn't 557 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,120 because of the ai and because of the 558 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:55,120 software 559 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:56,159 that 560 00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:57,520 naturally 561 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:01,039 consciousness is being accumulated 562 00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:03,039 in electronic devices 563 00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:05,120 and the more complicated the more rich 564 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,720 that we make them 565 00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,000 and the more 566 00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:10,320 millions of transistors are added every 567 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:12,320 single time when it's developed and you 568 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:15,440 add another another core to it 569 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:18,240 is that possible is that is 570 00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:19,840 the cause 571 00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:23,600 of this sudden sentient ai 572 00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:26,080 now ray kurzweil 573 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,919 has put a couple of dates it's been 574 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:29,600 pushed back a little bit 575 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:35,600 uh he had 2018 2022 2031 2036 576 00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:38,080 that these were the dates of singularity 577 00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:39,760 and at that point 578 00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,240 ai was uh going to be smarter than us 579 00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,640 it's the consciousness side it's not the 580 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,120 ai side we're going to get there 581 00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:52,000 but it's the sentient consciousness side 582 00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:55,440 of things that we need to be aware of so 583 00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,039 it just may be 584 00:29:01,990 --> 00:28:58,559 that consciousness 585 00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:02,000 is everywhere and it's an accumulation 586 00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:03,679 of mass 587 00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:05,919 and it's very interesting to me now the 588 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,360 last part that 589 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:09,520 that i want to leave you with in in this 590 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,720 thought process of mine 591 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,120 is that's fine 592 00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,000 but then is the soul 593 00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:20,640 a byproduct of consciousness 594 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:21,919 are they one of the same thing are they 595 00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:24,640 two separate things but then 596 00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:28,080 what happens after our our meat suits 597 00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:30,559 stop stop working 598 00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:34,000 where does that go 599 00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,600 i'll talk to robert grant about this 600 00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:37,600 tonight he is with us and i'm going to 601 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,399 take a 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00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:15,440 new is the x 692 00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:17,440 x x 693 00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:24,869 fade to black 694 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,240 is not 695 00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:28,879 your father's radio show 696 00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,040 on the game changer radio network 697 00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:35,119 hi this is rob reiner from anvil and 698 00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:36,399 you're listening to jimmy 699 00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:41,430 what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle 700 00:34:45,250 --> 00:35:00,550 [Music] 701 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,870 okay welcome back fade to black i am 702 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,560 your host jimmy church tonight robert 703 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,320 grant is with us 704 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,240 joining us for the first time tonight 705 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,000 we're going to talk numbers 706 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,520 we are 707 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:13,920 so get ready there will be a pop quiz 708 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,480 later on we're going to talk about some 709 00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:18,560 things including the concealed codes 710 00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:20,960 that surround us every day 711 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,680 he's a successful entrepreneur base uh 712 00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:25,440 best selling author of phytomath 713 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,560 prolific inventor founder of separate 714 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:30,720 several corporation enterprises 715 00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:32,800 additionally he's also an artist a 716 00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:34,880 sculptor he's a music theorist a 717 00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,680 musician an author of several research 718 00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:40,000 and patent publication spanning biology 719 00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:43,040 dna i can't even say that word 720 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:45,440 number theory geometry 721 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:48,240 and physics he is the founder chairman 722 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:51,040 and managing partner of a strathspree 723 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,440 crown llc a growth equity holding 724 00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,040 company based in newport beach 725 00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,359 california with a broad portfolio of 726 00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:59,359 company and asset holdings spanning 727 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:02,400 healthcare clean energy social media and 728 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:05,200 financial technologies he's also served 729 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:08,480 as the founding ceo of access elite 730 00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:11,440 corporation from april 2017 until july 731 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:14,960 2018 and has served as the founding ceo 732 00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,480 of alfian corporation from february 2013 733 00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,800 through 2016. 734 00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:22,960 he's also the chairman and ceo of 735 00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:24,880 several other companies we'll get into 736 00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:27,040 some of that tonight his website of 737 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,160 course is robert edwardgrant.com 738 00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:32,800 the links are throughout social media 739 00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:34,400 over on our website and in the 740 00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:37,040 description box below i would like to 741 00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:39,280 welcome for the first time to fade the 742 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,560 black 743 00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:42,240 robert grant 744 00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:43,760 how are you doing 745 00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:45,920 man man you look better today than you 746 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,589 okay 747 00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:53,680 i'm just gonna let that go right there 748 00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:55,760 but uh it's good to have you on the show 749 00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:58,480 and good to be here yeah and you get the 750 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,440 uh first time guest disclaimer now and 751 00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,760 this is what's strange about the first 752 00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,920 time guest disclaimer and think about 753 00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,240 what we did this weekend but here it is 754 00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:10,320 word for word robert 755 00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,040 it's just you and i sitting on my couch 756 00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,359 yeah having a conversation as friends 757 00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,040 and where that conversation starts it 758 00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,119 starts where it ends it ends but we're 759 00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:21,440 gonna end his friends there you go but 760 00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,079 we already did it right 761 00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:26,240 it was a great conversation yeah it was 762 00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,800 a great conversation and uh i had been 763 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:30,960 looking forward to that for a very long 764 00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,760 time and i've been following you for 765 00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:35,040 many years 766 00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:37,920 and um and i'm almost 767 00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,560 a little intimidated and let me tell you 768 00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,880 why and we sort of talked about it 769 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:44,000 uh 770 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,280 this weekend 771 00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,040 which is 772 00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,599 throughout my education i did fine in 773 00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:51,359 english i did great 774 00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:52,320 uh 775 00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,480 drafting and drawing and um 776 00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:58,000 world history 777 00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:59,440 biology 778 00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:02,400 fine straight a's no problem 779 00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,000 math and i was your favorite right 780 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:08,560 math and i just didn't get along and and 781 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:11,680 i went through the normal stages of math 782 00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:14,880 early on you know plus and minus right 783 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:18,880 division whatever but uh once uh i got 784 00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:22,000 into algebra and and geometry 785 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,560 uh i just i just fell apart and i was 786 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,800 always waiting for 787 00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:29,280 the magic thing to click in my brain 788 00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:32,000 where i go okay i get it all right okay 789 00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:34,720 i've got this figured out i never did 790 00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:36,480 and you did 791 00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:40,400 were you always a numbers person from a 792 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,359 kid moving forward i always liked 793 00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:45,520 numbers but i have to say 794 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,599 it wasn't until i learned several other 795 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:48,880 languages 796 00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,800 so one of the first things that i had 797 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:52,800 the opportunity to do i guess after i 798 00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,280 graduated from high school was i went to 799 00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:57,119 korea for two years and i got to learn 800 00:39:02,470 --> 00:38:58,720 the korean language 801 00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,480 it was really fascinating for me because 802 00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:04,240 i figured out that the language is 803 00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:07,119 backwards so if we sometimes wonder why 804 00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,720 certain people from certain cultures and 805 00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,560 countries think differently than us it's 806 00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:12,400 also because their syntax is entirely 807 00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:14,240 different you know in our english 808 00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:17,680 language it's subject you know object 809 00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,720 verb right or subject verb object excuse 810 00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:23,359 me and with korean language it's subject 811 00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:25,839 object verb so everything's backwards it 812 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:27,200 seems like totally backwards so instead 813 00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,480 of saying something like 814 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:30,800 i am going to the store the way you 815 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:33,040 would say it in korean is i 816 00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,160 to the store going am 817 00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,560 so everything's backwards right so i 818 00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:40,320 noticed though in learning that and then 819 00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:41,920 when i learned the japanese language as 820 00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,280 well that there was sort of this process 821 00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,359 and pattern to learning it 822 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:50,000 and and then i realized that there was a 823 00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:51,599 pattern to learning all languages so i 824 00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,359 learned a pattern for learning languages 825 00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,280 and i learned eight languages in the 826 00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:58,079 process so i learned korean japanese 827 00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:01,200 mandarin chinese french german 828 00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,440 spanish and hebrew 829 00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:05,599 and of course i spoke english already 830 00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,880 and so there's a thing that if you're 831 00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:08,880 good at music and you like mathematics 832 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:10,319 then you'll learn languages very quickly 833 00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:11,920 i knew that all along because people 834 00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:13,280 always said that 835 00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,640 but what was interesting is when i 836 00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,240 started looking at mathematics as a 837 00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:18,000 language 838 00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:19,520 that changed everything for me because 839 00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,000 it went from a nameless faceless 840 00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:24,720 sort of you know objective 841 00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,520 not subjective at all at least i thought 842 00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,920 right sort of you know the the queen of 843 00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:31,760 the sciences the the one science that's 844 00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:33,680 entirely objective 845 00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:36,079 to something that was actually a form of 846 00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,720 communication with the universe 847 00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,079 and when i realized it was a form of 848 00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:42,000 communication with the universe and that 849 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:43,839 there's actually a syntax to that 850 00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,160 communication that there's a message 851 00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:48,800 that comes along with that communication 852 00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,119 it brought math to life for me so it 853 00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,599 became so much easier to learn 854 00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:55,119 and i think that's what's happening 855 00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:56,400 right now in the world people are 856 00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,400 starting to realize that math is the 857 00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:00,480 language of the universe 858 00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:02,079 and as they learn it 859 00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:03,440 then they're starting to get a new 860 00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:05,680 relationship with mathematics together 861 00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,160 it and also in schools we never learned 862 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:10,480 mathematics except for in one geometry 863 00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:11,680 class that we had and we stopped 864 00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:13,760 studying geometry after like you know 865 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:15,680 10th grade you don't do any geometry 866 00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,720 after that 867 00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:18,800 even though greek mathematicians and 868 00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:21,440 philosophers studied geometry their 869 00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:23,680 entire lifetimes right we thought it was 870 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,119 good enough to get nine months of it to 871 00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,119 be done with it right 872 00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,280 what what actually geometry does is it 873 00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:32,319 takes that language and makes it visual 874 00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:33,839 and when you can actually put in the 875 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:36,640 context of that visualization 876 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,640 then everything takes on a whole new 877 00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,760 meaning 878 00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:41,280 and it starts to actually invade your 879 00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,280 heart so people are people that hated 880 00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:45,440 math in junior high school and in high 881 00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:48,079 school are now falling in love with math 882 00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,440 i guess maybe it's that old adage 883 00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,880 whatever you could fall in love with you 884 00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,800 could also hate whatever you could hate 885 00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,640 you could also fall in love with so now 886 00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,160 people that hated math are starting to 887 00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,160 fall in love with math and and it's been 888 00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:00,079 fun to help to 889 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:01,680 have people get a whole new relationship 890 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,520 with math by seeing it differently just 891 00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:05,280 flipping their perspective on what math 892 00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,000 is changes everything all right so 893 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,720 you're suggesting that even somebody you 894 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:13,040 know an old guy like me it's never too 895 00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:14,480 late there's still hope jimmy there's 896 00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,760 still no there's still hope well when um 897 00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:19,040 uh 898 00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:21,920 i i read every 899 00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:25,040 book on physics that i can get my hands 900 00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:26,000 on 901 00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:27,440 and 902 00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,640 that doesn't make anybody a physicist 903 00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,640 it's you are 904 00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:34,800 reading the interpretation of a 905 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:37,680 physicist who is putting it into words 906 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,480 so we can digest it right 907 00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:42,480 it doesn't make me a physicist but i do 908 00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,119 find myself learning 909 00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:48,079 and faking my way through it to the 910 00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:50,079 point where i think i've got a basic 911 00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:51,200 grasp 912 00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:53,440 on some of these concepts but does that 913 00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:55,839 mean i'm suddenly going to write 914 00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,920 algorithms out that means you've learned 915 00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:59,200 the language 916 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:02,560 of physics right you can speak it you 917 00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:04,960 can you know communicate within it 918 00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,880 and it's the same thing with mathematics 919 00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,319 there's only a few things you actually 920 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:10,079 have to learn what i realized is that to 921 00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,680 learn a language most people learn 922 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:13,839 language like the rosetta system and 923 00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,560 they end up learning a lot of nouns 924 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,319 so they'll learn a ton of nouns and even 925 00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:20,560 in korea when i lived there or japan or 926 00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:22,079 china or whatever 927 00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:23,359 the the people that were studying 928 00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,800 english as a second language they would 929 00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,640 study so many words but they couldn't 930 00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:28,720 speak any sentences 931 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,560 so what i decided was let me get 932 00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,800 proficient at speaking the sentences and 933 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:34,800 the nice thing is is because english is 934 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,800 pretty well understood from a noun 935 00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,960 perspective around the world 936 00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:40,480 if i don't know a word i could just 937 00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:42,319 throw that word in in that language in 938 00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:44,720 their accent so in japanese i could say 939 00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:46,960 something like oh what's computer i 940 00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,800 would be saying something in japanese 941 00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:50,640 and then all of a sudden i would say 942 00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:53,920 computa right and that works just fine 943 00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,160 people can understand that oh computer 944 00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:58,000 yeah it's like that's a computer 945 00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,520 so you could do the same thing with 946 00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:01,440 mathematics 947 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,680 i learned that in a language if you knew 948 00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:05,119 two thousand verbs you could be 949 00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:08,720 proficient in that language 950 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,640 it's about 1950 too many for me 951 00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,640 but there's a way to take that and 952 00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,720 transpose it to mathematics you don't 953 00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,480 have to learn so much of math to 954 00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:20,480 actually become very proficient at the 955 00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:23,359 language of math now that's what i 956 00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:24,720 that's what i teach 957 00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:27,200 one of the things uh i didn't want to 958 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,720 jump into et uh and focus on that 959 00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:32,640 tonight but 960 00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,440 what you just said and it reminds me of 961 00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:37,920 what we talked about earlier this week 962 00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,160 is that mathematics has to be the 963 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,359 language of the universe right but 964 00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:45,839 i have a few concerns with that 965 00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:49,599 um in that if if we do if et shows up 966 00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:52,079 here and starts talking to us and and we 967 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,880 present them with some math they're they 968 00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,880 may have a reaction with what you know 969 00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:58,800 what 970 00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,640 that was a long time ago for us we've 971 00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:02,319 moved on 972 00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:03,280 right 973 00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:05,599 it's it's not the way that we do things 974 00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,640 now 975 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:08,319 um is there 976 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,920 is there a possibility of evolving past 977 00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:13,680 mathematics 978 00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,119 and then into something else or 979 00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:18,960 is it just something that has to be 980 00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:21,440 accepted and if it is accepted 981 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:22,880 universally 982 00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:26,960 then what about zero through nine 983 00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:29,599 right is that is our version of 984 00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,760 mathematics going to be something that 985 00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,599 will be understood 986 00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,520 okay so that's a that's a pretty deep 987 00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:37,359 question first of all you probably 988 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,800 remember carl sagan right yep so carl 989 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,400 sagan was 990 00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,400 the you know involved in the voyager 991 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,240 space program when they put voyager out 992 00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:48,400 into space and now it's exited out of 993 00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,319 our solar system it's out somewhere in 994 00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:52,079 the kuiper belt 995 00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:53,760 well you know there's there's only a few 996 00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,800 things they put on the voyager 997 00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:56,400 spacecraft there's a picture of a man 998 00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:59,040 and a woman right and also a picture of 999 00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,480 the sp exactly it's kind of like 1000 00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,079 vitruvian man but it's a little bit 1001 00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:04,000 different right but it is kind of like 1002 00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:04,720 that 1003 00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:07,920 they put one number on there 1004 00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,160 there's there's no real like a lot of 1005 00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:12,640 language and stuff to speak about 1006 00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:15,119 carl sagan decided that one number 1007 00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,119 should be on there and that if there was 1008 00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:18,960 one universal language it would be 1009 00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:20,960 mathematics 1010 00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:23,359 and that he felt fundamentally that our 1011 00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:25,839 numbering system our base 10 system is 1012 00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,319 fundamental to the universe and the 1013 00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:30,319 dimensionless mathematical constants 1014 00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:31,119 like 1015 00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,000 pi 1016 00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,240 right like the euler number like you 1017 00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,920 know the golden ratio these are all 1018 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:37,119 dimensionless you talked about 1019 00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:38,640 measurements before actually 1020 00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:40,880 measurements only mean something with 1021 00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:43,280 the context of comparison to something 1022 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,920 else it's all about ratio 1023 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,079 so the one number that he put on there 1024 00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:49,680 is something that is referred to as the 1025 00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:52,079 electron coupling constant 1026 00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,119 now you might know this from your 1027 00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:55,280 physics study it's also known as the 1028 00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:57,599 fine structure constant 1029 00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,200 and it's a value that is 1 over 137 now 1030 00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,280 why is that number important because it 1031 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:05,359 happens to be the exact threshold or the 1032 00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,319 mirror 1033 00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:08,720 between when light is going to either be 1034 00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,870 so 1035 00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:14,640 what that means is if you looked at an 1036 00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:18,480 electron going around a proton right 1037 00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:21,920 the moment that that you you excited 1038 00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,280 with energy 1039 00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,599 either the electron is going to jump 1040 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,319 into a outer shell right it's going to 1041 00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,720 go take the energy absorb it and jump 1042 00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,319 into an outer shell 1043 00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,880 right or it's going to stay in that same 1044 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:36,240 shell 1045 00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,800 actually going to reflect a photon off 1046 00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:41,839 of it 1047 00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:44,880 that separation that threshold of energy 1048 00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:47,119 that will determine that outcome 1049 00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:51,440 will be based on the ratio of 1 over 137 1050 00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:54,559 and that is exactly what was put onto 1051 00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:56,400 the voyager spacecraft 1052 00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,920 because that's the one bit of 1053 00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:59,920 information that 1054 00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,119 could tell 1055 00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,359 you know other life forms around the 1056 00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:06,000 galaxy or outside of you know even 1057 00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:07,760 intergalactic space 1058 00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:10,000 that we understood the relationship 1059 00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,920 between light and dark 1060 00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:13,920 that we understood the relationship of 1061 00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:16,319 what determines 1062 00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,240 a hydrogen atom's spectral lines of 1063 00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:19,920 emission or its spectral lines of 1064 00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:21,920 absorption 1065 00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:25,119 so the mathematics is the language that 1066 00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,960 we have some of the best minds in the 1067 00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:28,720 world have applied to this and said you 1068 00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:31,040 know what that's the one thing that we 1069 00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:32,960 can say to everybody we are intelligent 1070 00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,559 life forms 1071 00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:36,559 we understand about the electron 1072 00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:39,040 coupling constant it's dimensionless did 1073 00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:40,240 you know that 1074 00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,319 yes i did and here's the thing um 1075 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,839 that's fine 1076 00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:47,520 but they need to know what 1077 00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:50,880 the symbol of one represents they need 1078 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:53,119 to know what the symbol of three 1079 00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,640 represents 1080 00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,760 right so would you then 1081 00:49:03,670 --> 00:48:58,800 once you 1082 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:03,680 i mean it only takes one everything 1083 00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:05,280 can get resolved 1084 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,359 right if they understand that one and i 1085 00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,079 i guess you would put a one a a single 1086 00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:11,839 dot underneath it under three you would 1087 00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,319 put three odds and under the seventy 1088 00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:16,480 would put seven dots if they understood 1089 00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:19,520 that then language opens up numbers open 1090 00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,160 up and then everything could be 1091 00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:24,880 translated and communicated so now i'm 1092 00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:27,040 excited because you're now stepping into 1093 00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:28,880 an area where i think your mind is going 1094 00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:31,359 to get blown let's go 1095 00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,160 okay 1096 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,400 what if the shapes of our numbering 1097 00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:36,720 system that we think are arbitrary 1098 00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:39,680 chosen by the the the people that you 1099 00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:42,079 know created the arabic numeral system 1100 00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:43,760 what if those shapes are actually 1101 00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:47,119 geometries just as split up fragments 1102 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,079 keep going okay so for example 1103 00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:51,760 if i wanted to 1104 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:53,119 represent 1105 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:55,760 two and its mirror the number two and 1106 00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:56,960 its mirror 1107 00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,319 be so 1108 00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:02,160 to take the mirror you have to take the 1109 00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:03,280 one over 1110 00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:06,000 value right so the reciprocal value of 1111 00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:08,960 two one over two equals what 1112 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,839 point 1113 00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:11,680 five right 1114 00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:12,559 now 1115 00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:16,079 one over five equals point two 1116 00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:18,640 is it any coincidence that two 1117 00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:20,960 and five are the exact same shape just 1118 00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:23,599 inverted and backwards from each other 1119 00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:26,559 interesting keep going okay 1120 00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,599 i already feel smarter by the way 1121 00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,839 what about four 1122 00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,520 but keep going let me show you how 1123 00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:35,440 genius this system is because what's one 1124 00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:36,800 over four 1125 00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:40,240 that'd be 0.25 right right but two plus 1126 00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:42,319 five equals what 1127 00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,200 seven 1128 00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,760 okay so now let's look at four and flip 1129 00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:47,520 it upside down backwards and it becomes 1130 00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:49,599 a what 1131 00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:50,559 seven 1132 00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:52,240 oh it does 1133 00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:53,280 yeah 1134 00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:55,599 right so then now let's look at the 1135 00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:58,000 number three 1136 00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,280 right six 1137 00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:01,760 and nine so we now have two and five 1138 00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:03,680 that are reciprocal values of each other 1139 00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:05,920 right join this relationship four and 1140 00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:08,079 seven are showing that same type of 1141 00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:09,760 relationship as well 1142 00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:11,839 which by the way this is the binary math 1143 00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:12,800 system 1144 00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,960 one doubles to two two doubles to four 1145 00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,640 four doubles to eight eight doubles to 1146 00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:19,200 sixteen which is seven one plus six 1147 00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:20,640 equals seven 1148 00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:23,359 and then 32 is 5 because 3 plus 2 equals 1149 00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,359 5. when you reduce it down in a method 1150 00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:27,839 called digital root mathematics you get 1151 00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:31,839 this pattern that's 1 2 4 8 7 5 1 2 4 8 1152 00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,200 7 5 1 2 4 8 7 5. so i just gave you four 1153 00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:37,359 of those numbers now which by the way 1154 00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,760 that pattern is also produced in one 1155 00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:41,280 over seven 1156 00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,960 it's the same number series just 1157 00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:44,319 transposed 1158 00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:46,559 now let's go back to three 1159 00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,680 so three 1160 00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:50,000 right so let's look at let's start with 1161 00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:51,760 six and nine first because three is like 1162 00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:53,440 a wild card 1163 00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,400 okay 1164 00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:56,640 so six and nine what does six and nine 1165 00:52:02,870 --> 00:51:57,680 do 1166 00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:04,870 nine yeah 1167 00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:05,760 okay 1168 00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,920 now let's say we have six which also 1169 00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:11,359 these what if all these numbers are 1170 00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:13,599 actually just associated with particle 1171 00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:15,680 physics 1172 00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:18,559 so let's assume that we have vacuum and 1173 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:21,200 the first vacuum the space is the number 1174 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,119 one it's shaped like a one it's like a 1175 00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:25,040 mirror right it's just like a mirror if 1176 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,240 we're gonna draw a mirror we draw a 1177 00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,480 light straight line like a mirror 1178 00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:30,160 okay then we have two 1179 00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:32,880 all right so what if two is 1180 00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,599 positive electrical force 1181 00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:38,160 what if seven it's mirrored complement 1182 00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,520 right it's another complement of it 1183 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,359 because seven plus two equals nine 1184 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:43,200 everything has to complete at nine 1185 00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:44,880 okay that becomes negative electro 1186 00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:47,280 electrical force or dark 1187 00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,839 dark electricity let's call it this way 1188 00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:51,920 then we have three which is an electron 1189 00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:54,640 we have four which is a dark 1190 00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:57,599 magnetism five is magnetism six is 1191 00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:59,599 proton seven 1192 00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:01,520 is i already mentioned is the dark 1193 00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,760 electric effect and everything will sum 1194 00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:05,520 to nine always 1195 00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:07,520 so this means that three 1196 00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:09,520 has the shape that looks like kind of a 1197 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,480 w right on its side 1198 00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,480 well if we took three and we mirrored 1199 00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:16,400 its 1200 00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:21,040 six and nine which is a proton and a 1201 00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:24,240 neutron nine is a neutron it's neutral 1202 00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,720 acts like a zero you have a proton and 1203 00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:29,040 you have a neutron and around it 1204 00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,720 you have a three 1205 00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:32,800 that creates a double taurus the shape 1206 00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:34,800 of a double taurus that shape of a 1207 00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:37,119 double torus is the exact path of the 1208 00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:38,319 electron 1209 00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:39,920 so if you looked at the way the 1210 00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:43,920 electrons go right around earth it goes 1211 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,559 from the north pole to the equator then 1212 00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:48,480 back around to the south pole and then 1213 00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:49,520 back through 1214 00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,559 right 1215 00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:52,240 this is number three this is the exact 1216 00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:53,680 pathway 1217 00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:55,200 of the electron 1218 00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:56,800 so and wait a minute 1219 00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:58,800 six is a proton 1220 00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:01,599 how would we denote the spin of a proton 1221 00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,319 maybe we draw it like this 1222 00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,079 and what about a neutron which has an 1223 00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:08,000 opposite spin going the opposite 1224 00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:11,440 direction like a nine wait a minute are 1225 00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:13,920 these numbers so arbitrary after all 1226 00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:16,880 yeah they're not and it is so and that 1227 00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:19,520 would almost indicate to me 1228 00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,559 uh 1229 00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:22,800 back to what i was referencing before 1230 00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,000 that maybe math 1231 00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,079 e.t could see in colors 1232 00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:29,760 math could be colors math could be 1233 00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,079 shapes people that have synesthesia i 1234 00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,559 have synesthesia when i see numbers i 1235 00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:36,559 see colors right right 1236 00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,630 right i actually see colors when i see 1237 00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:44,079 numbers 1238 00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:45,359 so it's a it's a very different 1239 00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,960 experience and lots of people experience 1240 00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:48,880 this it's not just me there's many 1241 00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:50,960 people that that have this thing called 1242 00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:53,920 synesthesia but the the point is this 1243 00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:57,440 that what we consider is arbitrary 1244 00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,079 is not at all arbitrary 1245 00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,640 it is a function of consciousness 1246 00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:04,880 to organize itself in the shape of 1247 00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:06,720 numbers numbers are just fragments of 1248 00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,200 geometric forms 1249 00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:11,359 we look at the shape of an omega for 1250 00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:14,480 example we talk about alpha omega 1251 00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,520 alpha 1252 00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:18,000 is related to the numbers one four and 1253 00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:18,880 seven 1254 00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:21,200 it's exactly the shape of the letter a 1255 00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,520 you can create ones fours and sevens off 1256 00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,359 of the shape of a letter a 1257 00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:28,079 omega is two and five 1258 00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:29,680 ever notice that 1259 00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,079 two and an upside down backwards five 1260 00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:34,559 create the exact shape of omega 1261 00:55:38,710 --> 00:55:36,880 alpha omega 1262 00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,720 all i'm saying to you is that there's a 1263 00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:40,960 lot of evidence that would suggest 1264 00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:43,040 that what we consider being entirely 1265 00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:44,799 arbitrary on our base 10 numbering 1266 00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:47,680 system which by the way i think is 1267 00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,240 incomplete because i think that actually 1268 00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,480 we have a base 12 numbering system that 1269 00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,720 runs concurrent to it as well 1270 00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:56,319 and you could find it by looking at 1271 00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:59,040 nodal points and nodal intersections in 1272 00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,640 wave theory 1273 00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,640 and music and that's what i've done i've 1274 00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,160 written a book about that called 1275 00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:06,160 phylomath and you could find this in 1276 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:08,799 this book that we actually for every 360 1277 00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:11,920 degrees there are actually 432 1278 00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:14,880 positional points 1279 00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,309 i'm reacting the same as i did uh uh 1280 00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:22,559 when we talked over the weekend to 4 32. 1281 00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,799 i just reacted that immediately and i 1282 00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:26,319 think you can see 1283 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,359 by what's going on behind me yeah that 1284 00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:31,920 i've i've got a little bit of wraps 1285 00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:33,040 going on there 1286 00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:36,720 a little bit and uh and and susie 1287 00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:38,720 uh i just popped this up as you were 1288 00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,880 saying that this was her comment in the 1289 00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,640 chat chat room 1290 00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:45,359 that math is music hundred percent susie 1291 00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,400 is genius she's right and actually you 1292 00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,520 know i consider it like this it's like 1293 00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:53,760 the left brain expression 1294 00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:55,440 of music 1295 00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:57,040 is mathematics 1296 00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:58,880 the right brain expression of music is 1297 00:57:02,789 --> 00:57:00,640 what we listen to in music 1298 00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,799 but the central thesis 1299 00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:04,640 that is right around the center of our 1300 00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:05,839 brain 1301 00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:07,920 is actually geometry 1302 00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:10,640 and geometry is the visual expression 1303 00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,359 that we could experience mathematics 1304 00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:15,119 right visually 1305 00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:16,559 and also 1306 00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,480 it's like the music that we can listen 1307 00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:20,880 to with our eyes 1308 00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:23,040 for lack of a better term right right 1309 00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:25,119 right and you mentioned carl sagan uh 1310 00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:26,720 we're gonna hit a break here in three 1311 00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:27,760 minutes 1312 00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,720 um so let's back up on on carl sagan for 1313 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:32,799 a moment because 1314 00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,960 uh 1315 00:57:38,829 --> 00:57:36,720 yes we got to talk hollywood for just a 1316 00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:38,839 minute but if we go back to close 1317 00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:43,280 encounters and the approach to this 1318 00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:46,640 um where they were using computers and 1319 00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:49,359 and and math and trying to figure out a 1320 00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:50,880 way to communicate 1321 00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:54,640 that was all juxtaposed into 1322 00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:56,160 color 1323 00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:58,240 and music notes 1324 00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:02,309 right 1325 00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:04,960 not not too far off the mark and and 1326 00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:07,920 we've had so many years to consider uh 1327 00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:09,920 that segment of the movie 1328 00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:12,640 but it has stood the test of time hasn't 1329 00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:13,280 it 1330 00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,799 yo absolutely so i think that the entire 1331 00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:18,319 universe 1332 00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:19,839 is mathematics 1333 00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,240 that gets expressed in the different 1334 00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,119 forms that are appropriate to our senses 1335 00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:27,920 right so the entire universe is math the 1336 00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:30,480 coherence of that mathematics is what we 1337 00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,079 call geometry the coherence of 1338 00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,799 consciousness is the geometric aspect 1339 00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:36,720 that we can see visually but that way 1340 00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:39,040 that gets expressed is musically for our 1341 00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,440 ears the way it's expressed for our 1342 00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:43,599 taste buds is through the taste that we 1343 00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:46,160 have of great food right 1344 00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,839 all of these different senses are just 1345 00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:49,680 different experiences of mathematics 1346 00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:50,480 because 1347 00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:54,400 just like pythagoras said all is number 1348 00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:56,079 that quantification that measurement 1349 00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,359 that you said 1350 00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,359 that is true the way we observe things 1351 00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:01,280 is through measurement but maybe that 1352 00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,200 measurement really requires the context 1353 00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:05,440 of ratio 1354 00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:07,200 in order for us to know what tastes good 1355 00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:08,960 we have to experience what tastes bad in 1356 00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:10,640 order for us to know what is pleasurable 1357 00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:13,520 we have to experience what's painful 1358 00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:15,119 i was talking about that last night on 1359 00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:18,799 the show and i i a little giggle with 1360 00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,920 this 1361 00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:21,200 but it's 1362 00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:24,000 the more the older that i get 1363 00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:28,000 um if if you go back to kung fu movies 1364 00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:30,640 right okay the harvest pictures and 1365 00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:33,680 bruce lee and you always had the the 1366 00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,720 wise guy the wise old man right 1367 00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:39,440 before you can go up you must go down 1368 00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:40,640 right 1369 00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,319 before you turn left 1370 00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:44,640 you must turn right it's like david 1371 00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:48,720 carradine right it's like a 100 100 that 1372 00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:51,440 and as i get old it's exactly true i 1373 00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,119 used to giggle at it 1374 00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:55,359 uh when i was growing up that that just 1375 00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:56,960 that's just funny 1376 01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:58,319 no 1377 01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:00,720 it's actually true 1378 01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:03,359 right that's the way the universe works 1379 01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:05,680 there's no positive without a negative 1380 01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:07,839 and and that's just it it's it's just 1381 01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:09,520 the way that it is and you're not going 1382 01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:11,599 to change it and that certainly is 1383 01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,240 universal right 1384 01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:15,920 that's right and 1385 01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:17,760 you know in fact one of the the one 1386 01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:19,599 number i left out of that grouping was 1387 01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:21,280 the number eight 1388 01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,599 and what's interesting 1389 01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:27,359 yeah the number eight is light and it's 1390 01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,680 the infinity symbol also is this all 1391 01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:31,520 just by coincidence 1392 01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,799 i don't know 1393 01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:34,720 right i don't think that it is 1394 01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:37,440 and and i i think that the universe 1395 01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:39,200 it let's say that we're in a simulation 1396 01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:41,200 of sorts 1397 01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:43,920 mathematics would be the entire code 1398 01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:46,480 that the whole thing is writ 1399 01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:47,839 under right the whole thing would be 1400 01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:50,240 based on that i found a 1401 01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:53,359 binary code inside of combinatorial 1402 01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,079 mathematical analysis of dna adenine 1403 01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,240 thymine guanine cytosine dna is what the 1404 01:01:01,750 --> 01:01:00,480 whole life in the universe is built upon 1405 01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,760 and there's nothing in the universe 1406 01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:03,599 that's not conscious 1407 01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:05,920 the entire universe is conscious that's 1408 01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:07,359 my belief 1409 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,400 because 1410 01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:10,720 all of the information that we would 1411 01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,319 have you know the i don't know if you 1412 01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,920 saw this recently but the university of 1413 01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:15,599 portsmouth just came out and said that 1414 01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:16,640 they believe they're going to be able to 1415 01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,720 prove through experimentation 1416 01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:20,640 that information is the fifth state of 1417 01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,720 matter 1418 01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:24,480 this only came out about a month ago 1419 01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:27,680 yeah and you know and kip thorne uh it's 1420 01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:30,240 a good segue i've just got 15 seconds 1421 01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:32,880 you know kip thorne hawkins 1422 01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:35,599 a lot of physicists when you get into uh 1423 01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:37,520 uh black hole theory 1424 01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:38,720 um 1425 01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:41,200 have all said that the one thing the one 1426 01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:42,960 constant that will survive a black hole 1427 01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:45,200 is information information doesn't go 1428 01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:46,400 anywhere 1429 01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:48,160 yeah it accumulates on the surface in a 1430 01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:49,680 two-dimensional 1431 01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,400 you know sort of uh 1432 01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:54,319 creation right it's it's the surface of 1433 01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:56,319 the black hole according to 1434 01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,559 leonard suskin is two dimensional 1435 01:02:01,990 --> 01:01:59,839 information 1436 01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:02,000 right so that means then is really the 1437 01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:09,029 could be 1438 01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:11,680 and it's a holographic universe 1439 01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:14,880 i have uh i've read all of suskin's work 1440 01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:17,200 and and his presentations 1441 01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,359 and believe it or not 1442 01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:21,440 i understand him 1443 01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:23,920 i really do he communicates in such a 1444 01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:25,039 way 1445 01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:27,280 that i i 1446 01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:29,920 i'm a huge fan of lenny he's just 1447 01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:31,520 amazing all right let's take our break 1448 01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:33,599 right here our guest tonight the one and 1449 01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:37,200 only robert grant is with us now it may 1450 01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:44,069 we'll continue all of this when we get 1451 01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:45,920 back right after this short break i am 1452 01:02:53,830 --> 01:02:48,240 your host jimmy church this is fade to 1453 01:02:53,840 --> 01:03:16,710 [Music] 1454 01:03:22,380 --> 01:03:18,870 this is fade to black with jimmy church 1455 01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,390 on the game changer 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with us i'm your civic 1586 01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:06,880 church this is fade to black there's 1587 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:08,640 only one way i'm getting through this 1588 01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:10,239 show tonight 1589 01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:12,480 brain peak nine 1590 01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:15,600 boom 1591 01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:17,279 man 1592 01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:19,279 two month supply click on the link below 1593 01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:21,120 promo code fader that's all you gotta do 1594 01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:24,400 i think fader three uh fader fader 1595 01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:25,839 something like that it's in the link 1596 01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:28,319 below just just click on it 1597 01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:30,799 this is a conversation and this is what 1598 01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:32,799 i like to do on this show 1599 01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:37,040 is learn and and get my knowledge on and 1600 01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:39,120 one of the things robert i i do want to 1601 01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:40,560 uh say this 1602 01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,679 that 1603 01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:43,440 this audience is always on a journey 1604 01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:46,319 with me and we've done enough shows over 1605 01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:47,520 the years 1606 01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:51,279 that they know that i am here to explore 1607 01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:52,640 and learn 1608 01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:56,400 and and i feel that uh organically over 1609 01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:59,600 the years they know my next question 1610 01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:00,880 you know they've been with us for so 1611 01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:04,239 long they you know were were synergistic 1612 01:10:10,229 --> 01:10:07,040 and uh it's a little bit of a hive mind 1613 01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:10,239 thing but the universe is also connected 1614 01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:12,000 and we've been doing this for a while 1615 01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:14,080 and i'm excited and they know what this 1616 01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:17,920 next question is okay which is 1617 01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:19,840 what is consciousness 1618 01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:22,960 and and i know that i asked you uh this 1619 01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,440 very important question over the weekend 1620 01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:26,880 and 1621 01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:32,640 the hundreds of times that i've asked 1622 01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:34,960 this question uh to guests over the 1623 01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:35,840 years 1624 01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,679 where i get a different answer every 1625 01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:39,600 time which is fine 1626 01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:41,280 but yours 1627 01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,080 didn't overlap you've got a different 1628 01:10:48,870 --> 01:10:46,719 you've got a different take here and so 1629 01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,880 what is consciousness robert 1630 01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,880 well i'd start by answering your 1631 01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:52,560 question with a question unfortunately i 1632 01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:56,000 did this to you also yes you were in l.a 1633 01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:59,120 um what is not conscious 1634 01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:01,120 what is not consciousness i think that's 1635 01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:03,760 the better place to start from 1636 01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:06,400 and because i believe everything in the 1637 01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:08,480 universe is consciousness there's 1638 01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:10,000 nothing that's not 1639 01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,520 when i discovered the prime number 1640 01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:13,679 pattern and could predict prime numbers 1641 01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:16,400 infinitely and published it in 2019 i 1642 01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:18,880 got two invitations one was to go and 1643 01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,800 speak at the vatican 1644 01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:22,640 interestingly because there was a prime 1645 01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,920 number pattern and we could predict 1646 01:11:28,470 --> 01:11:25,440 prime numbers infinitely and it turned 1647 01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:28,480 out to be the shape of a templar cross 1648 01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:32,320 on a mod 24 yep really yep really was 1649 01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:34,239 and so they wanted to understand that 1650 01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:37,120 and then secondly uh because it implied 1651 01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:39,760 that if there's a pattern to prime 1652 01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,960 numbers 1653 01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:42,480 then something that's not supposed to 1654 01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:44,800 have a pattern to it that implies some 1655 01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:47,120 sort of creator or consciousness or 1656 01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:48,960 something right 1657 01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:51,199 some hidden order that we didn't really 1658 01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:52,719 know about before 1659 01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:54,239 and then the other invitation i got was 1660 01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:56,800 to the dalai lama to go to dharmsala 1661 01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:59,679 india and i spent a week in india and i 1662 01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:00,880 spent a day 1663 01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:02,880 sitting with the dalai lama 1664 01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:05,120 teaching him the prime number pattern i 1665 01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:07,840 also brought other scientists with me 1666 01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:10,480 and um and we sat there i had a two 1667 01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:12,320 physicists i had a 1668 01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:15,040 a stem cell biologist as well two number 1669 01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:16,960 theorists and a geometer 1670 01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:19,120 and we sat there with the dalai lama for 1671 01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:20,719 about five and a half hours and taught 1672 01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:24,159 the dalai lama uh about mathematics and 1673 01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:25,920 physics and he and he's already an 1674 01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:27,280 expert in physics by the way he wrote a 1675 01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:28,480 book called 1676 01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:30,960 the universe in a single atom 1677 01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:32,719 and uh and we all read that book before 1678 01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,960 going so it was very consistent with you 1679 01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,560 know he's studying at the feet of some 1680 01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,719 of the best physicists in the world like 1681 01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:41,280 he's he's met with boom he's he's met 1682 01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,440 with you know the suskins of the world 1683 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:45,600 etc he's met most of the major 1684 01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:47,040 physicists 1685 01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,840 and 1686 01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:49,040 it was interesting because there was a 1687 01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:50,960 moment when we were talking with him 1688 01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:53,199 where he asked me he said do you believe 1689 01:12:58,229 --> 01:12:56,800 that glass of water is conscious 1690 01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,239 and my answer was 1691 01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:59,920 yes 1692 01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:01,679 because it has memory 1693 01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,040 we already know 1694 01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:05,520 that water right first of all most of 1695 01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:07,679 what we think of is dna we think about 1696 01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:10,960 adenine thymine cytosine uh guanine 1697 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:13,280 right and then to transfer rna uracil 1698 01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:15,040 replacing thymine 1699 01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:17,120 but actually when you look at the the 1700 01:13:22,149 --> 01:13:20,320 simplex or the matrix around the dna 1701 01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:22,159 water is the critical aspect of this 1702 01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:24,000 it's the critical element that's 1703 01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:27,440 necessary for dna to to survive and it 1704 01:13:33,669 --> 01:13:30,640 carries memory right jean-luc uh it was 1705 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:33,679 montagne who is a french 1706 01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:36,480 scientist who received the nobel prize 1707 01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,400 actually did research and found that 1708 01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:40,640 they could transport on a radio wave 1709 01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:43,120 using electromagnetism right they could 1710 01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:46,159 transport dna from one test tube to 1711 01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:48,480 another test tube the other test tube 1712 01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:50,159 not even having anything in it except 1713 01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:52,480 for water so there was they were able to 1714 01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:54,560 use the radio signal to be able to 1715 01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:56,719 transport this dna across this is 1716 01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:58,400 someone who won a nobel prize he didn't 1717 01:14:02,550 --> 01:13:59,840 win a nobel prize for this particular 1718 01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,560 research but he was a nobel laureate 1719 01:14:06,550 --> 01:14:04,719 and we know that water is conscious 1720 01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:06,560 because it carries memory 1721 01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:08,800 it's a crystalline structure right and 1722 01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:11,360 we know the exact shape of it too which 1723 01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,880 happens to be the way it clusters 1724 01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:14,719 together what's called a truncated 1725 01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:17,040 icosahedron which is also referred to as 1726 01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:19,040 a buckyball you may have heard of 1727 01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:21,040 buckminster fuller 1728 01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:22,560 it also happens to be the exact same 1729 01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:24,239 shape as covet 1730 01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,159 coved is exactly a truncated icosahedron 1731 01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:30,320 so it's pentagons and hexagons well 1732 01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:31,520 guess what 1733 01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:34,159 our dna is pentagons and hexagons so 1734 01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:35,920 what we find is that there's actually 1735 01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:37,679 order throughout the entire universe but 1736 01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:39,040 then you might say well what about all 1737 01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,960 the randomness what about all the 1738 01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:42,560 entropy do you think that's conscious 1739 01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:43,679 too 1740 01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:45,679 and my answer to that is 1741 01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,159 it's only us that's perceiving 1742 01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:49,920 chaos 1743 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:51,679 i almost want to introduce a new 1744 01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:54,400 approach to how we look at this 1745 01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,920 let's say that what we call entropy or 1746 01:15:03,910 --> 01:14:59,280 randomness 1747 01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,920 it's just our perception 1748 01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:05,360 of what is 1749 01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:07,280 there because it's in the category of we 1750 01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:09,040 don't know what we don't know 1751 01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:10,960 so we don't understand something we have 1752 01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:13,360 to apply a word to it that that sort of 1753 01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:15,440 excuses our ignorance for something well 1754 01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:17,040 actually i was with lawrence krauss 1755 01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:19,440 who's a famous physicist as well in 1756 01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,679 egypt a couple of months ago and we both 1757 01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:23,520 agreed that actually 1758 01:15:27,990 --> 01:15:26,080 what we call entropy is probably just 1759 01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:28,000 ignorance 1760 01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:30,320 it's where the boundary condition 1761 01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:32,640 of our knowledge ends 1762 01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:34,480 and our ignorance begins 1763 01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:35,920 that is true 1764 01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:38,159 right so true well there's doesn't mean 1765 01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:39,679 it's not pattern it doesn't mean it's 1766 01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:41,040 not pattern it doesn't mean it's not 1767 01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:42,560 conscious it just means we're not 1768 01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:44,800 perceiving it maybe if we raise our 1769 01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:46,880 consciousness to a higher state we can 1770 01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:48,719 actually perceive greater degrees of 1771 01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:49,679 pattern 1772 01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:52,960 versus entropy or chaos and maybe 1773 01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:55,600 that's another way of looking at 1774 01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:57,679 consciousness quotient 1775 01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:59,760 the ability to perceive pattern 1776 01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:02,080 over chaos 1777 01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:04,560 it's a function of our own perception 1778 01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:07,760 not really the actual state of things so 1779 01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:09,280 i believe the entire universe is 1780 01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:11,600 conscious i believe that everything in 1781 01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,920 this universe is conscious and it is 1782 01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:15,679 only us that have 1783 01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:18,719 limits on how much we can perceive 1784 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:20,960 of that universe based on our own 1785 01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:24,640 conscious progression and evolution 1786 01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:26,000 now 1787 01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:32,550 entropy 1788 01:16:36,390 --> 01:16:35,600 has two or three definitions 1789 01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:36,400 yeah 1790 01:16:41,550 --> 01:16:39,199 okay and and so if we go with the 1791 01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:41,560 hardcore version of it which is 1792 01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:43,679 thermodynamics and the second law you 1793 01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:47,360 know and and there's that version of it 1794 01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,960 uh that you can apply to different 1795 01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:50,000 things 1796 01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:51,520 there is 1797 01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:52,480 uh 1798 01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:55,600 more of a popular culture version of 1799 01:17:00,950 --> 01:16:58,400 entropy one that i look at closely 1800 01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:00,960 which is you start out everything starts 1801 01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:03,679 out simple you move into a house there's 1802 01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:05,520 no furniture in it it's clean a couple 1803 01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:07,440 of years later your kid's room is a 1804 01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:09,120 disaster area 1805 01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:11,440 that is entropy right it starts out 1806 01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:13,520 simple gets complicated 1807 01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:16,719 and and then there's a third version of 1808 01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:19,280 entropy that i apply to society in 1809 01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:22,320 general and that any planet or any 1810 01:17:28,149 --> 01:17:24,800 civilization is eventually going to get 1811 01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:28,159 too complicated and implode upon itself 1812 01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:31,199 and you can be careful look at rome 1813 01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:32,880 right okay so 1814 01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:33,760 look at 1815 01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:36,159 the our computer system today and the 1816 01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:38,480 networks where it started out simple 1817 01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:40,960 right the internet had one 1818 01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:42,159 original 1819 01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:46,080 right one the first website and now it's 1820 01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:48,800 out of control and could very easily 1821 01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:50,880 implode on itself that's another version 1822 01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:52,560 of entropy has nothing to do with the 1823 01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:54,320 thermodynamics 1824 01:18:00,070 --> 01:17:57,040 um and if we look at that 1825 01:18:01,430 --> 01:18:00,080 if if that is if the universe is 1826 01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:01,440 mathematics 1827 01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:06,719 play their way out right no matter what 1828 01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:08,880 in in a universal sense 1829 01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:11,199 then is entropy 1830 01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:13,120 just going to be something that is 1831 01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,640 inevitable all the time so so actually 1832 01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:18,960 the best way i can you know analogize 1833 01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:20,480 this one is 1834 01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,320 is not something that 1835 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:23,920 that i came up with on my own this is 1836 01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:26,880 something that is from walter russell 1837 01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:28,400 so walter russell are you familiar with 1838 01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:30,800 walter russell i am very familiar with 1839 01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:32,560 walter so walter russell wrote a book 1840 01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:34,400 called the universal one he wrote a book 1841 01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:35,840 also called the 1842 01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:38,320 the secret of light and he wrote a 1843 01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:40,960 treatise during the 1920s that basically 1844 01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:43,679 debunked a lot of what the physicists of 1845 01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,000 the day were saying some of some of the 1846 01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:48,400 comments that he made were actually so 1847 01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:51,760 antithetical to einstein that you know 1848 01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,440 einstein was sort of rebuffed on it but 1849 01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:55,199 later in his life einstein said you know 1850 01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:57,280 i should have read more about what 1851 01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:58,640 walter russell 1852 01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,239 had posited 1853 01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:02,480 and what walter's work was around was 1854 01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:05,440 largely the connect connection between 1855 01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:07,040 and this is the exact same problem that 1856 01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:08,480 einstein was trying to solve until he 1857 01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:09,600 died 1858 01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:13,040 right and un and was unable to solve it 1859 01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:14,800 with the collusa klein theory although 1860 01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:16,960 there were aspects of collusion climb 1861 01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:19,280 if you know physics were actually really 1862 01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:21,040 profound right 1863 01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:22,800 just in a hard time explaining 1864 01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:25,120 mathematics in a fifth dimensional 1865 01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:26,400 context 1866 01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:28,719 to people that are having a hard time 1867 01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:30,560 perceiving even third and fourth 1868 01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:31,760 dimensional 1869 01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:33,600 you know constructs 1870 01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:35,920 so basically what what he said though is 1871 01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:37,440 that the universe 1872 01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:39,280 goes through cycles 1873 01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:41,679 of gravitation 1874 01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:42,640 and 1875 01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:45,360 radiativity or radiation that gravity 1876 01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:47,760 and radiation are not two separate 1877 01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:50,080 things but actually they are a result of 1878 01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:51,280 electricity 1879 01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:54,239 so anytime you have a sex-paired mating 1880 01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:55,840 between a positive pole and a negative 1881 01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:58,239 pole there will be gravity effect 1882 01:20:01,030 --> 01:20:00,080 gravitational effect and there will also 1883 01:20:02,950 --> 01:20:01,040 be 1884 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:02,960 a radiativity effect right which we 1885 01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:05,440 would see is light so maybe we could say 1886 01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:08,800 that the opposite of light is gravity 1887 01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:11,040 now that's been positive before kaluza 1888 01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:13,520 klein also posited that and einstein 1889 01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:16,000 supported that thesis the mathematics is 1890 01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,920 what failed they failed to describe it 1891 01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:19,280 appropriately in that fifth dimensional 1892 01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:20,560 phrase maybe they could have done it all 1893 01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:22,400 in two dimensions because in two 1894 01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:24,719 dimensions all the information necessary 1895 01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:26,800 just as the black hole surface is two 1896 01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:28,000 dimension 1897 01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,360 if i show you a hexagon shape right so i 1898 01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:33,520 have a cube octahedron right here but if 1899 01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:36,719 i were to cast a shadow right on my desk 1900 01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:38,880 of this the shape of this would look 1901 01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:40,400 just like you know it could have a 1902 01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:41,600 square shape 1903 01:20:45,750 --> 01:20:43,520 right it could also have from a 1904 01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:45,760 different perspective if i had it sort 1905 01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:47,360 of sideways on this it could actually 1906 01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,679 look even like a hexagon right it could 1907 01:20:53,590 --> 01:20:51,360 be a hexagon shape 1908 01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:53,600 and within that hexagon shape 1909 01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:56,239 as a flat two-dimensional form all the 1910 01:21:01,830 --> 01:20:58,960 information necessary for it to pop into 1911 01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:01,840 this shape is actually there right 1912 01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:03,600 that's why a holographic universe can 1913 01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:07,120 exist in a two-dimensional plane 1914 01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:09,120 and popped into multiple dimensions 1915 01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:12,800 right when when russell wrote uh he said 1916 01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:15,199 one thing that it's very similar to what 1917 01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:16,560 you're saying right there 1918 01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:21,520 um but it it it made it made me think 1919 01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,880 for months 1920 01:21:27,669 --> 01:21:24,560 that all of us 1921 01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:27,679 live in a 2d world we just don't know it 1922 01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:30,480 and if you want proof of that 1923 01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:32,719 you've all got a shadow 1924 01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:34,560 right and that's it that's it you're 1925 01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,800 walking down the street there's a 2d 1926 01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,480 version of you 1927 01:21:41,750 --> 01:21:40,320 projected on the ground 1928 01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:41,760 that can 1929 01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:43,360 make you 1930 01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:45,520 and i just i mean it was so profound 1931 01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:47,440 that it was just like a little sentence 1932 01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:50,159 right yeah it's just a mind blower it's 1933 01:21:53,270 --> 01:21:51,600 a mind blower 1934 01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:53,280 to my life and if you haven't read 1935 01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:54,960 walter russell's stuff i highly highly 1936 01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:56,719 highly recommend it probably the best 1937 01:22:02,390 --> 01:21:59,280 cosmologist that the world has ever seen 1938 01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:02,400 i agree nikola tesla said of his work to 1939 01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:04,000 hide it away for a thousand years 1940 01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:05,520 because the world is not ready for this 1941 01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:07,040 understanding 1942 01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:09,040 okay they were partners together they 1943 01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:10,880 were partners together on on several 1944 01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,560 projects in fact and good friends as 1945 01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:14,639 well but the point that i'm making about 1946 01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:17,679 this is that maybe the cycles of entropy 1947 01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:19,520 and its opposite which we call neg 1948 01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:21,840 entropy or centropy sometimes is 1949 01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:23,199 referred to 1950 01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:25,199 are just life and death cycles so then 1951 01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:27,760 how do you separate out and say okay 1952 01:22:32,709 --> 01:22:30,480 life is going to be negantropic so it's 1953 01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:32,719 bringing organization to something but 1954 01:22:36,149 --> 01:22:34,400 actually the moment you're born you 1955 01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:36,159 start to die 1956 01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:38,480 so these two forces are operating 1957 01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:40,880 simultaneously so then we can have a 1958 01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:42,960 hard time arguing that death is not 1959 01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:45,199 simply a part of life 1960 01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:46,880 what if it's actually as walter russell 1961 01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:49,920 posits just a giant inhalation and 1962 01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:52,400 exhalation cycle 1963 01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:55,440 that death is as much life 1964 01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:57,760 as life is death 1965 01:23:02,390 --> 01:22:59,199 so in other words 1966 01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:02,400 as we start to bring organization to 1967 01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:04,719 things there will also be an aspect of 1968 01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:06,480 it that will bring disorganization at 1969 01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:08,320 the same time or what we would call 1970 01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:09,360 entropy 1971 01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:12,159 this is really just a gigantic 1972 01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:15,040 inhalation and exhalation cycle so for 1973 01:23:18,550 --> 01:23:16,480 example we talk about the universe is 1974 01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:18,560 expanding at the speed of light 1975 01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:19,440 right 1976 01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:21,199 and now they're saying it might even be 1977 01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:22,960 expanding faster than that 1978 01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:24,000 right if you probably heard that 1979 01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:25,360 recently because you follow physics a 1980 01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:26,320 lot 1981 01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:28,960 so if that's the case then what's really 1982 01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:31,760 happening here right if the universe is 1983 01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:34,320 expanding at the speed of light maybe 1984 01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:36,159 that's actually just another way of 1985 01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:37,679 looking at our own consciousness 1986 01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:39,040 expanding 1987 01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:42,080 as we learn and grow and evolve 1988 01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:43,679 but there will be a cycle that then the 1989 01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:45,520 universe starts to contract 1990 01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:47,600 as we start to exhale we're taking a big 1991 01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:49,199 inhalation right now the universe 1992 01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:50,239 expands 1993 01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,600 and then over time this could be 1994 01:23:54,070 --> 01:23:53,120 billions and billions and billions of 1995 01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:54,080 years 1996 01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,159 maybe even more than it would take for 1997 01:24:00,550 --> 01:23:58,480 us to get through one breath cycle do 1998 01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:00,560 you know how many breaths that we have 1999 01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:04,400 in one day i don't what is that number 2000 01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:06,080 it's an interesting number 2001 01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:08,480 because a lot of people don't know this 2002 01:24:14,830 --> 01:24:11,840 on average human beings breathe 2003 01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:14,840 once inhalation exhalation 2004 01:24:17,189 --> 01:24:14,960 3.3333 three seconds 2005 01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:19,510 so three and a third seconds 2006 01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:21,440 so you take it a breath you inhale and 2007 01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:23,040 exhale so three and a third seconds 2008 01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,400 guess how many breaths that would be 2009 01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:26,239 then because we have eighty six thousand 2010 01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,400 four hundred seconds in a day it means 2011 01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:30,400 we have twenty five thousand nine 2012 01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:33,280 hundred and twenty breaths 2013 01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:35,760 in a day wait you might recognize that 2014 01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:37,920 number i do the same as the procession 2015 01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:40,159 of equinox in years and you know what 2016 01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:42,719 else it is it's how many days you're 2017 01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:46,000 alive if you live to the age of 72 yeah 2018 01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:47,520 72 yeah 2019 01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:49,840 exactly so wait then that brings another 2020 01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:52,639 meaning to it maybe we have a set number 2021 01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:55,360 of breaths while we live here 2022 01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:57,120 we all have a number right how many and 2023 01:25:01,590 --> 01:24:59,679 guess what this is what hindus believe 2024 01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:01,600 hindus believe that there's everyone's 2025 01:25:06,310 --> 01:25:04,239 born with a set number of breaths 2026 01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:06,320 okay and by the way that's just the 2027 01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:09,120 square root of the speed of light 2028 01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:11,520 in miles per hour 2029 01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:13,360 so if you look at miles per hour of the 2030 01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:17,600 speed of light it's 671 million 800 2031 01:25:21,830 --> 01:25:20,400 000 miles per hour 2032 01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:21,840 if you take that 2033 01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:23,360 and you take the square root of that 2034 01:25:26,590 --> 01:25:25,679 it's 25 2035 01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:26,600 and 2036 01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:28,400 [Laughter] 2037 01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:30,480 now i'll just keep going on this because 2038 01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:32,400 this is the procession of equinox we 2039 01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,480 have you know the period of time that it 2040 01:25:37,990 --> 01:25:36,320 takes for the earth to precess on its 2041 01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:38,000 wobble and it precesses through the 2042 01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:40,800 equinox backwards it processes through 2043 01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:43,199 the zodiac backwards so instead of going 2044 01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:46,800 aries taurus taurus you know to gemini 2045 01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:50,000 and then so on cancer or whatever 2046 01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,520 it goes backwards it goes the exact 2047 01:25:55,990 --> 01:25:52,880 opposite direction 2048 01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:56,000 and so we have a 25 900 year 20-year 2049 01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,159 cycle actually we don't believe it's 2050 01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:00,560 that we believe that the true cycle is 2051 01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,320 24 000 years 2052 01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:04,560 and that there's a long aspect of the 2053 01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:06,719 cycle as we get farther and farther away 2054 01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:09,440 from our sister star serious a 2055 01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,440 right and b 2056 01:26:16,870 --> 01:26:13,679 as we get farther away from it it takes 2057 01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:16,880 what would be 25 920 years but then of 2058 01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:20,000 course cut that into 12 960. 2059 01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:21,760 and then as we get closer to it you've 2060 01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:23,840 seen how binary stars move quicker as 2061 01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:25,600 they get closer each other right just 2062 01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:27,280 like that 2063 01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:28,080 okay 2064 01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:30,320 then it would be 21 600 years so the 2065 01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:32,800 average comes out to 24 000 years 2066 01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:35,280 just under 24 000 years 2067 01:26:40,390 --> 01:26:38,480 and this is you know not a coincidence 2068 01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:40,400 because it just so happens also that our 2069 01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:42,000 distance 2070 01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:43,760 from the galactic center you can look it 2071 01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:44,480 up 2072 01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:45,760 how many light years are we from the 2073 01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:47,600 center of the galaxy 2074 01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:54,070 this is a pattern 2075 01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:56,639 that ties to our breaths 2076 01:27:04,229 --> 01:26:57,679 entropy 2077 01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:04,239 it's just an exhalation process 2078 01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:06,159 it's a lack of understanding it's a lack 2079 01:27:10,149 --> 01:27:08,080 of knowing it's a lack of perception as 2080 01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:10,159 we breathe things in we can actually 2081 01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:12,560 take in more information 2082 01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:15,199 but one is just part of the next process 2083 01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:17,040 they're not separable 2084 01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:19,120 gravity and electromagnetism are just 2085 01:27:22,870 --> 01:27:21,600 part of the same thing just as walter 2086 01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,880 posits 2087 01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:24,880 they're actually the same thing 2088 01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:25,920 we have 2089 01:27:30,310 --> 01:27:27,840 darkness is not really the absence of 2090 01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:30,320 light darkness is the opposite condition 2091 01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:32,239 of it 2092 01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:34,320 entropy is the opposite condition of neg 2093 01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:35,760 entropy 2094 01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:38,400 it's just a condition of a state that's 2095 01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:39,440 it 2096 01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:42,159 now all of this though 2097 01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:45,760 and i get it i do i do 2098 01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:46,880 cannot be 2099 01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:49,120 chance 2100 01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:50,880 right it can't be 2101 01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:52,400 coincidence 2102 01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:55,040 no i mean look if i were going to make a 2103 01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,880 perfect time system 2104 01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:58,480 how would i do it 2105 01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,400 if i were going to devise an entirely 2106 01:28:04,229 --> 01:28:02,639 perfect time system what i would do is i 2107 01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:04,239 would probably say okay 2108 01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:06,320 whatever you're orbiting around should 2109 01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:08,400 have a relationship to your time right 2110 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:10,320 and of course your spin of your planet 2111 01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:11,760 should have a relationship to that as 2112 01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:12,880 well 2113 01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:15,600 okay so let's pick a unit of measure 2114 01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:17,199 and let's just say arbitrarily the 2115 01:28:20,629 --> 01:28:19,120 sumerians used the mile 2116 01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:20,639 because that the first reference to a 2117 01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:23,120 mile was in the epic of gilgamesh there 2118 01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:25,440 is no older book on planet earth that's 2119 01:28:29,189 --> 01:28:27,199 correct okay 2120 01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:29,199 so let's look at this for a moment and 2121 01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:31,040 this it was the sumerians the oldest 2122 01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:32,480 civilization that we know in our 2123 01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:33,679 recorded history i don't believe it's 2124 01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:35,840 the oldest civilization i just believe 2125 01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:37,840 that we went through periods of 2126 01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:40,159 inhalation and exhalation i believe we 2127 01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,440 went through periods of stupidity 2128 01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,960 loss of knowledge 2129 01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:46,320 where everything was perceived as 2130 01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:47,520 entropic 2131 01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:49,920 and we lost knowledge in the process as 2132 01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:52,800 we go through these time you know aeons 2133 01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:55,040 that then bring different aspects to us 2134 01:28:58,310 --> 01:28:56,480 that we learn different things and we 2135 01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:58,320 have different experiences we have dark 2136 01:29:02,229 --> 01:28:59,920 ages we have light age we have 2137 01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:02,239 renaissance we have age of aquarius 2138 01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:04,800 right an aquarium renaissance 2139 01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:07,199 all of these things if you look back at 2140 01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:08,800 the mile 2141 01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:10,320 okay is it a coincidence then that we 2142 01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:12,800 have 86 400 seconds in a day and how's 2143 01:29:17,510 --> 01:29:15,840 that derived 24 hours times 60 minutes 2144 01:29:19,990 --> 01:29:17,520 times 60 seconds 2145 01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:20,000 that's no great feat right 2146 01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:22,320 okay so let's let's just pull on this 2147 01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:25,280 string a little bit further 2148 01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:32,910 what is the diameter of the sun 2149 01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:36,719 864 000 miles 2150 01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:41,360 wait a minute so we have for every 2151 01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:43,040 10 seconds 2152 01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:46,800 we have a mile of diameter for the sun 2153 01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:52,870 you think that's coincidence well 2154 01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:54,080 i don't 2155 01:29:59,189 --> 01:29:57,120 and so if we would 2156 01:30:03,030 --> 01:29:59,199 push the boundaries against somebody 2157 01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:03,040 like a sam harris or or lawrence krauss 2158 01:30:06,390 --> 01:30:04,159 or 2159 01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:06,400 uh others i had fun with lawrence on 2160 01:30:09,830 --> 01:30:07,760 this one especially here in the great 2161 01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:09,840 pyramid together and i think i blew his 2162 01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:11,920 mind on some of these things yeah and 2163 01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:14,560 you know and i think that most of them 2164 01:30:19,910 --> 01:30:16,960 the richard dawkins of the world right 2165 01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:19,920 their little cadre their little circle 2166 01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:21,120 um 2167 01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:24,719 i think that if the plane is going down 2168 01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:26,800 they're the most spiritual people on the 2169 01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:28,320 planet 2170 01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:31,280 because they get it they get it and well 2171 01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:32,400 isn't there something what i said 2172 01:30:36,229 --> 01:30:34,960 earlier about anything that you can hate 2173 01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:36,239 you can love 2174 01:30:44,470 --> 01:30:40,950 for everything that's black there is 2175 01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:44,480 white right okay so but but here's the 2176 01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:47,440 thing i've got uh 60 seconds 2177 01:30:52,550 --> 01:30:50,400 um there if it's not coincidence and i 2178 01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:52,560 don't believe that it is 2179 01:30:58,790 --> 01:30:55,360 is there something call it divine call 2180 01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:58,800 it uber smart uh is there something 2181 01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:01,440 behind an architect 2182 01:31:05,590 --> 01:31:04,560 before before our universe was created 2183 01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:05,600 right 2184 01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:09,440 something infinitely old and wise 2185 01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:10,960 is out there 2186 01:31:15,189 --> 01:31:12,880 right i think it's like you know at the 2187 01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:15,199 end of uh of ready player one the movie 2188 01:31:20,629 --> 01:31:17,920 did you see that many times when he's 2189 01:31:22,390 --> 01:31:20,639 like thanks for playing my game right 2190 01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:22,400 right hands in the keys trying to get 2191 01:31:26,470 --> 01:31:23,840 the keys 2192 01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:26,480 is there a key master um the answer to 2193 01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:27,760 that question in my mind is 2194 01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:35,189 well played let's take our break right 2195 01:31:39,030 --> 01:31:37,920 here our guest tonight robert grant and 2196 01:31:43,510 --> 01:31:39,040 you knew 2197 01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:43,520 robert grant is here this is what a 2198 01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:45,199 conversation is all about we're going to 2199 01:31:50,229 --> 01:31:48,800 take a quick break this is fade to black 2200 01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:50,239 that's right 2201 01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:52,080 on the on axe and game changer networks 2202 01:31:59,500 --> 01:31:53,199 i'm your host jimmy church we'll be 2203 01:32:14,709 --> 01:32:11,510 [Music] 2204 01:32:16,860 --> 01:32:14,719 way out here we listen to 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2278 01:35:51,460 --> 01:35:48,400 revolution is on radio 2279 01:35:51,470 --> 01:36:11,830 [Music] 2280 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,320 so 2281 01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:23,320 [Music] 2282 01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:34,159 welcome back fade to black 2283 01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:36,320 robert grant is with us i'm just getting 2284 01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:38,400 started i just sent robert 2285 01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:41,119 uh robert check your private chat 2286 01:36:44,629 --> 01:36:42,719 you'll get where my head is at 2287 01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:44,639 thunderstorm 2288 01:36:50,070 --> 01:36:47,520 three-pack deal right now 2289 01:36:54,070 --> 01:36:50,080 you can smell as fresh as i do the 2290 01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:54,080 bunker is incredible kills viruses 2291 01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:56,560 yeah it does all kinds of things but it 2292 01:37:02,629 --> 01:37:00,239 also just makes things smell great get 2293 01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:02,639 your thunderstorm uh below 2294 01:37:06,709 --> 01:37:04,880 and uh 2295 01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:06,719 okay robert 2296 01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:09,440 there are so many things uh to discuss 2297 01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:11,760 tonight we're not gonna get it all into 2298 01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:14,400 the show and you know we'll be back and 2299 01:37:19,910 --> 01:37:17,040 we'll have you back and and things but 2300 01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:19,920 i want to touch on on on a few things we 2301 01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:20,960 were 2302 01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:24,480 uh uh talking uh earlier about math and 2303 01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:27,280 and contact with aliens oh oh oh oh oh 2304 01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:28,159 oh 2305 01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,199 um 2306 01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:31,679 you're the ceo you've got multiple 2307 01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:33,040 companies 2308 01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:35,600 you've got to be prim and proper you've 2309 01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:37,840 got to speak correctly you've got to 2310 01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:40,000 watch what you say you've got to do all 2311 01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:42,080 of that stuff but i'm still going to ask 2312 01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:44,080 this question 2313 01:37:48,229 --> 01:37:46,560 go ahead have you have you ever seen 2314 01:37:49,430 --> 01:37:48,239 something strange in the sky that you 2315 01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:49,440 can't explain 2316 01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:51,280 oh yeah many times 2317 01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:53,280 and and and how do you do that with the 2318 01:38:01,990 --> 01:37:56,080 pragmatic black and white mind 2319 01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:04,229 give me one example what did you see 2320 01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:04,960 so 2321 01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:07,600 27 i think the first time i had i mean i 2322 01:38:14,870 --> 01:38:10,320 had some experiences back in 2323 01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:14,880 in 1981 um i was actually in 1980 right 2324 01:38:18,070 --> 01:38:17,280 before like like the last week of the 2325 01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:18,080 year 2326 01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:20,080 and i lived in rental shim forest in 2327 01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:26,950 wait wait whoa whoa whoa pump the brakes 2328 01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:29,280 right there when was this 2329 01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:32,000 it was exactly when that famous 2330 01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:34,239 visitation happened mike chris was in 2331 01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:36,880 the u.s military right and they've done 2332 01:38:43,590 --> 01:38:38,159 we lived 2333 01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:43,600 edge of reynolds from forest 2334 01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:44,560 okay 2335 01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:46,960 keep going i shared this only with gary 2336 01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,239 osborne 2337 01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:50,639 and i had an experience when i was 11 2338 01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:53,440 years old that was my first time 2339 01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:55,600 and i saw the 2340 01:39:01,270 --> 01:38:59,199 ship they were there it was my backyard 2341 01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:01,280 and uh butted up against that where that 2342 01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:02,560 forest was 2343 01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:05,040 right and uh it happened two nights that 2344 01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:06,880 week it was on the 2345 01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:08,960 i think it was the 27th and the 2346 01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:11,440 26th boxing day it was boxing day the 2347 01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:13,280 26th the day after christmas and the 2348 01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:14,639 28th i think 2349 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:16,639 those those those were the magical 2350 01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:18,010 nights um 2351 01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:19,199 [Music] 2352 01:39:21,990 --> 01:39:20,320 wow 2353 01:39:24,709 --> 01:39:22,000 i don't want to spend a whole lot of 2354 01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:24,719 time on this but uh you know gary 2355 01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:25,920 osborne's written a book on it 2356 01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:27,360 everything oh yeah it's a great book 2357 01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:29,040 yeah it's a great barry did a three hour 2358 01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:31,360 interview with me and um i told him the 2359 01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:33,199 whole story 2360 01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:36,239 but but then also uh i went to egypt in 2361 01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:38,320 2017 2362 01:39:42,870 --> 01:39:40,800 and um you know i went spent we we we 2363 01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:42,880 had i was there with nasim haram a 2364 01:39:47,590 --> 01:39:45,520 physicist uh and uh i was there so that 2365 01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:47,600 was the first time i ever taught 2366 01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:50,560 my mathematics i had invested behind the 2367 01:39:53,350 --> 01:39:51,760 sim and 2368 01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:53,360 and um 2369 01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:55,199 brought him from hawaii back to 2370 01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:56,480 california 2371 01:40:01,590 --> 01:39:59,280 right and uh and he invited me to come 2372 01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:01,600 and speak at this conference with 2373 01:40:05,189 --> 01:40:03,199 mathematicians and physicists there and 2374 01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:05,199 i was going to teach he'd known about my 2375 01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:07,360 work because he'd seen it from the from 2376 01:40:11,590 --> 01:40:10,000 2015 onward and he asked me to present 2377 01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:11,600 it to the group and he gave me a keynote 2378 01:40:14,950 --> 01:40:13,040 spot for it 2379 01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:14,960 and so i i gave a presentation was 2380 01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:16,960 supposed to be on mathematics as a 2381 01:40:19,590 --> 01:40:18,239 language 2382 01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:19,600 and it was only supposed to be for like 2383 01:40:22,149 --> 01:40:20,719 an hour and a half and it was the 2384 01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:22,159 keynote position before we're gonna go 2385 01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:23,600 into the pyramid that night and we're 2386 01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:25,440 gonna have like the entire giza plateau 2387 01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:27,360 was closed down for us we had all three 2388 01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:28,800 pyramids open it was first time that 2389 01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:30,639 they'd ever done that all three pyramids 2390 01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:33,840 open and also go to the spanx at dawn 2391 01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:36,080 and um i was very excited to give this 2392 01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:37,520 presentation well i got so many 2393 01:40:40,390 --> 01:40:39,040 questions from everyone teaching it to 2394 01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:40,400 them 2395 01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,440 that 2396 01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:43,600 basically i 2397 01:40:48,310 --> 01:40:46,080 ended up teaching for four hours 2398 01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:48,320 and at the end of it half the room was 2399 01:40:51,990 --> 01:40:50,159 in tears which shocked me because i'm 2400 01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:52,000 like this is math right 2401 01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,600 but people feel like they got a new 2402 01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:56,159 relationship to mathematics and to the 2403 01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:58,719 universe and just listening to this so i 2404 01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,480 had never taught any of it before to a 2405 01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:02,159 large group like that 2406 01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:04,320 well that night um you know we went to 2407 01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:06,000 the great pyramid we were in the king's 2408 01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:08,400 chamber i got to lay in the sarcophagus 2409 01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:10,239 and then many of us went out afterwards 2410 01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:11,280 there were still people inside the 2411 01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:13,840 pyramid and we were laying outside on 2412 01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:14,960 the 2413 01:41:20,629 --> 01:41:19,280 just you know large limestone blocks 2414 01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:20,639 right and 2415 01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:21,840 it's just some of it's kind of like 2416 01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:23,440 bedrock that's there and we're just 2417 01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:24,960 laying on it and we're looking up at the 2418 01:41:29,310 --> 01:41:27,600 sky and there are about 50 of us there 2419 01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:29,320 laying outside because there were still 2420 01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:32,239 130 people that were in the pyramids 2421 01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:34,000 somewhere in the process so you only 2422 01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:35,679 have 50 people at a time inside the 2423 01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:36,960 great pyramid 2424 01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:40,560 and so as we're looking at the stars 2425 01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:43,360 and i remember i actually recorded it 2426 01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:44,400 and and 2427 01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:46,639 all of us were laying there i'm like 2428 01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:48,480 are you guys seeing what i'm seeing 2429 01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:50,560 all the we thought were stars started 2430 01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:52,639 moving in formations 2431 01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:55,119 and there were about 75 of them 2432 01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:57,440 75 ships 2433 01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:00,800 above the giza plateau that night 2434 01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:07,590 i've got nothing and i love it when that 2435 01:42:12,149 --> 01:42:09,119 happens 2436 01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:12,159 i i do and which is 2437 01:42:16,229 --> 01:42:14,560 full circle back to 2438 01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:16,239 consciousness 2439 01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:18,080 in that 2440 01:42:22,390 --> 01:42:20,960 i've i've always felt and i want to know 2441 01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:22,400 your answer 2442 01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:24,880 that at that moment when you've got that 2443 01:42:28,629 --> 01:42:25,760 many 2444 01:42:30,950 --> 01:42:28,639 uh minds that you know that much brain 2445 01:42:32,310 --> 01:42:30,960 power lying on the limestone rocks 2446 01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:32,320 looking up 2447 01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:35,119 in in a positive mindset 2448 01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,719 oh we were all very happy yeah we're all 2449 01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:38,880 like in a blissful state right right 2450 01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:41,440 right right that that something happened 2451 01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:43,199 there were no drugs involved at least 2452 01:42:47,189 --> 01:42:44,719 not for me i can't speak for everybody 2453 01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:47,199 else that was there well 50 people but i 2454 01:42:51,669 --> 01:42:49,280 i had no drugs i was not 2455 01:42:54,070 --> 01:42:51,679 on anything i had no alcohol i i saw 2456 01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,080 this with my own eyes and 2457 01:42:59,189 --> 01:42:56,960 and um you know we 2458 01:43:00,629 --> 01:42:59,199 i i could say this that 2459 01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:00,639 the experience at rendell shim is 2460 01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:03,040 connected so you know render shim points 2461 01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:04,960 everything back to the fine structure 2462 01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:07,040 constant rendering points everything 2463 01:43:10,229 --> 01:43:08,480 back you know the one of the guys that 2464 01:43:12,870 --> 01:43:10,239 was on there i think it was jim peniston 2465 01:43:14,709 --> 01:43:12,880 was the name of the the guy he was i 2466 01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:14,719 think he was a major or something and he 2467 01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:16,159 could recite 2468 01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:18,159 all of the digits of the fine structure 2469 01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:20,320 constant that weren't even known at that 2470 01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:22,480 time and every year when they update the 2471 01:43:25,189 --> 01:43:24,320 code data information go out for another 2472 01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:25,199 digit 2473 01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:28,080 of accuracy on the calculation it's just 2474 01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:30,080 exactly correct to what he said it was 2475 01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:32,480 it was published back you know 2476 01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:34,000 in probably the 90s or something like 2477 01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:36,800 that he wrote it out he wrote it out 2478 01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:39,119 absolutely yeah and and so it points 2479 01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:42,239 right back to the giza plateau 2480 01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:43,199 and 2481 01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:45,360 that was kind of fascinating for me 2482 01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:47,600 because also my experience when i was 11 2483 01:43:52,870 --> 01:43:50,560 years old was it was all with arcturian 2484 01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:52,880 arcturians and they 2485 01:44:01,990 --> 01:43:58,790 which is 2486 01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:02,000 what peniston also said that exactly 2487 01:44:04,830 --> 01:44:04,159 right and that's what i experienced also 2488 01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:04,840 in 2489 01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:10,239 which 2490 01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:13,119 dovetails nicely into 2491 01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:15,280 what i wanted to talk about next we 2492 01:44:20,310 --> 01:44:18,000 started to touch upon it by the way 2493 01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:20,320 it wasn't really the ark of the covenant 2494 01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:23,840 it was always the arcturian covenant 2495 01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:25,840 excuse me 2496 01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:27,760 keep the covenant 2497 01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:29,760 right the ark of the covenant these 2498 01:44:34,790 --> 01:44:33,040 words like architect ark of the covenant 2499 01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:34,800 right right you've seen about the ark of 2500 01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:36,960 the covenant actually the original form 2501 01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:39,760 of it was the arcturian covenant is that 2502 01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:42,400 right yeah well that answers a lot of 2503 01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:44,000 questions and 2504 01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:45,280 there's another 2505 01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:48,400 i don't want to go too sideways here but 2506 01:44:53,109 --> 01:44:50,880 there's been a lot of discussion that 2507 01:44:55,430 --> 01:44:53,119 the sarcophagus that you laid in in the 2508 01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:55,440 king's chamber 2509 01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:57,440 carry the ark yeah carry the art that's 2510 01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:00,080 exactly yeah i've done i've done all the 2511 01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:02,800 dimensional analysis of the oh by the 2512 01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:05,600 way the king's chamber if you take the 2513 01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:07,360 sarcophagus 2514 01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:09,679 and you put it on its side and you stack 2515 01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:11,520 it to the ceiling it will stack six 2516 01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:13,760 sarcophagi to the ceiling i don't like 2517 01:45:16,709 --> 01:45:15,360 to like use the word sarcophagus it's 2518 01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:16,719 just the word everyone knows because 2519 01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,480 nobody ever died in that thing right 2520 01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:20,400 it's a it's a resurrection ascension 2521 01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:22,480 thing it's about spirituality sure 2522 01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:24,320 koreans are very very spiritual they're 2523 01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:25,920 mathematicians they're big-time 2524 01:45:29,830 --> 01:45:27,760 mathematicians 2525 01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:29,840 in fact they do joke about in fact 2526 01:45:34,070 --> 01:45:31,679 there's sort of a joking thing they have 2527 01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:34,080 about the rudimentary nature of our math 2528 01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:36,000 which they even chide themselves for 2529 01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:37,760 doing it it's pretty funny but 2530 01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:39,840 they do have a sense of humor the point 2531 01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:41,920 is that you could stack the sarcophagus 2532 01:45:48,070 --> 01:45:44,560 on its side to the ceiling six times 2533 01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:48,080 and you can it will stack side by side 2534 01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:49,360 five times 2535 01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:51,360 so that means you have 30 and then you 2536 01:45:55,590 --> 01:45:53,360 do 30 and 30 30 and guess how many times 2537 01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:55,600 the sarcophagus will fit inside the 2538 01:46:04,070 --> 01:45:58,320 king's chamber 2539 01:46:08,790 --> 01:46:07,430 nothing is a coincidence man nothing and 2540 01:46:09,830 --> 01:46:08,800 if um 2541 01:46:10,629 --> 01:46:09,840 uh 2542 01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:10,639 if 2543 01:46:17,590 --> 01:46:14,400 that 2544 01:46:18,870 --> 01:46:17,600 uh dna just happened 2545 01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:18,880 right just 2546 01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:21,360 for lightening straw custom and amino 2547 01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:24,719 acids on a crystal in a creek bed 2548 01:46:31,669 --> 01:46:28,000 in africa and and 2549 01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:31,679 we've got dna no no no well let me give 2550 01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:33,679 you another example of there's no way it 2551 01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:34,800 could have just happened how about 2552 01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:36,320 something as simple 2553 01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:38,800 and rudimentary as a solar a perfect 2554 01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:41,119 solar eclipse 2555 01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:42,960 do you know what the odds 2556 01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:44,320 you know what has to happen for us to 2557 01:46:48,870 --> 01:46:46,320 have a perfect solar eclipse 2558 01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:48,880 everything if i if i told you we're the 2559 01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:50,880 only planet in the solar system that has 2560 01:46:55,189 --> 01:46:53,199 a perfect solar eclipse with its moon 2561 01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:55,199 right that's right so here are the here 2562 01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:56,719 are the ingredients that have to go into 2563 01:47:03,109 --> 01:46:59,199 it i said already that the diameter of 2564 01:47:06,310 --> 01:47:03,119 the sun is eight six four zero zero zero 2565 01:47:07,830 --> 01:47:06,320 miles right 864 000 miles 2566 01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:07,840 and you can look this up you'll get 2567 01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:09,679 ranges because it will you know 2568 01:47:13,109 --> 01:47:11,679 equatorial circumference a little 2569 01:47:14,470 --> 01:47:13,119 different so therefore the diameter is a 2570 01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:14,480 little bit different but you take the 2571 01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:16,560 average the polar as well as the 2572 01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:17,920 equatorial you're going to get that 2573 01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:19,600 which by the way 2574 01:47:25,430 --> 01:47:22,800 because it's 864 000 miles guess what 2575 01:47:27,950 --> 01:47:25,440 the circumference of the sun is it's the 2576 01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:27,960 euler number in miles 2577 01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:30,800 2.718 million miles just google it 2578 01:47:34,070 --> 01:47:31,920 you'll get a number that's going to 2579 01:47:36,390 --> 01:47:34,080 range between whatever you google what 2580 01:47:37,709 --> 01:47:36,400 is the circumference of the sun in miles 2581 01:47:41,189 --> 01:47:37,719 it's going to be between 2582 01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:41,199 2.714 million miles and 2.72 million 2583 01:47:46,629 --> 01:47:43,360 miles it's euler number 2584 01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:46,639 right so here it is talk about in plane 2585 01:47:52,550 --> 01:47:50,960 site okay in plain sight now 86 400 2586 01:47:55,270 --> 01:47:52,560 seconds in a day 2587 01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:55,280 so in order for the sun to be perfectly 2588 01:47:59,990 --> 01:47:56,960 eclipsed by the moon 2589 01:48:02,149 --> 01:48:00,000 it has to follow that the diameter must 2590 01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:02,159 be proportionally 2591 01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:05,199 a delta difference from the sun as a 2592 01:48:09,189 --> 01:48:07,199 ratio 2593 01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:09,199 to the exact same proportion of the 2594 01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:10,560 distance 2595 01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:16,560 from earth to the sun than it is from 2596 01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:18,880 earth to the moon then the diameter must 2597 01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:21,840 be exactly 400 times 2598 01:48:25,030 --> 01:48:23,520 smaller for the moon than it is for the 2599 01:48:27,270 --> 01:48:25,040 sun 2600 01:48:30,629 --> 01:48:27,280 yeah yeah yeah guess what that's exactly 2601 01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:30,639 what it is the moon's diameter is 2 2602 01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:32,719 160 miles 2603 01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:35,119 multiply that by 400 and that comes out 2604 01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:38,000 to 864 000 miles 2605 01:48:43,750 --> 01:48:41,600 and the distance is 93 million miles 2606 01:48:44,830 --> 01:48:43,760 from the earth to the sun 2607 01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:44,840 and it's 2608 01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:47,920 232 000 average miles from the earth to 2609 01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:50,560 the moon that's 400 times difference so 2610 01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:52,239 therefore we have a perfect solar 2611 01:48:57,189 --> 01:48:55,840 eclipse and therefore the sun in the sky 2612 01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:57,199 while it's so much brighter than the 2613 01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,080 moon 2614 01:49:03,030 --> 01:49:00,480 is exactly the same aspect ratio on 2615 01:49:04,550 --> 01:49:03,040 average in the sky when we look at it if 2616 01:49:06,390 --> 01:49:04,560 you see the moon on the horizon 2617 01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:06,400 sometimes it looks really big 2618 01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:07,360 right 2619 01:49:11,830 --> 01:49:09,280 but guess what the average 2620 01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:11,840 is identical to the sun 2621 01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:13,760 isn't that kind of weird it tastes like 2622 01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:15,679 we have exactly a moon and a sun that 2623 01:49:20,229 --> 01:49:17,840 are the exact same size yes i know and 2624 01:49:22,950 --> 01:49:20,239 it's not weird in our perspective yeah 2625 01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:22,960 see and the thing is it it's it's not 2626 01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:26,480 weird robert and and i 2627 01:49:28,870 --> 01:49:27,280 for 2628 01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:28,880 again 2629 01:49:34,870 --> 01:49:33,040 um when we talk about uh dna this is 2630 01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:34,880 very important to me 2631 01:49:37,910 --> 01:49:35,840 and 2632 01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:37,920 the other part where 2633 01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:39,840 the scientific community and the hard 2634 01:49:45,430 --> 01:49:42,480 scientist the hard sciences 2635 01:49:47,270 --> 01:49:45,440 want to argue these points 2636 01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:47,280 that 2637 01:49:52,629 --> 01:49:49,360 dna is universal 2638 01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:52,639 amino acids are universal particles are 2639 01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:56,719 universal they can only combine so many 2640 01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:59,040 different ways and that's it it's not an 2641 01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:01,119 infinite thing therefore 2642 01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:03,360 anything that happens here happens 2643 01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:05,920 everywhere else in the universe and if 2644 01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:08,960 we're getting meteorites crashing into 2645 01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:11,040 the surface of this planet 2646 01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:14,639 with the fundamental amino acids on them 2647 01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:19,520 to create rna and transfer data to dna 2648 01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:21,520 therefore life is universal throughout 2649 01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:24,800 the universe this is not something that 2650 01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:28,320 magically happened here it's it's simply 2651 01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:30,480 not and i will not accept anything else 2652 01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:32,159 and i'll argue 2653 01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:35,040 uh all day long with uh neil degrasse 2654 01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:37,119 tyson about this oh yeah no i would love 2655 01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:38,320 to i would love to have this 2656 01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:40,320 conversation with any one of them 2657 01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:44,790 on on the face of it the mathematics 2658 01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,400 doesn't doesn't lie 2659 01:50:50,709 --> 01:50:48,400 right i mean it's not a coincidence also 2660 01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:50,719 you look at the distance from 2661 01:50:55,510 --> 01:50:54,080 from the planet mercury to the sun is 36 2662 01:50:58,550 --> 01:50:55,520 000 miles 2663 01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:58,560 okay so then the distance between venus 2664 01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:00,480 and the sun is 67 2665 01:51:05,910 --> 01:51:04,159 100 miles or sorry 67 million 100 000 2666 01:51:09,270 --> 01:51:05,920 miles guess what that's the speed of 2667 01:51:11,109 --> 01:51:09,280 light again in miles per hour 2668 01:51:12,149 --> 01:51:11,119 right it's just with a zero off the end 2669 01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:12,159 of it 2670 01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:18,870 oh you froze 2671 01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:20,960 let's see if you come back 2672 01:51:25,350 --> 01:51:24,080 i don't know if you can hear me 2673 01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:25,360 uh oh 2674 01:51:31,109 --> 01:51:28,960 we froze up at a key moment 2675 01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:31,119 we lost you for a second there okay yeah 2676 01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:33,119 we lost you too okay you're back you're 2677 01:51:37,750 --> 01:51:35,520 back so would you be surprised to know 2678 01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:37,760 that the earth travels its velocity is 2679 01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:41,040 18.6 miles per second wait doesn't that 2680 01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:43,520 mean that it's 10 000 times slower than 2681 01:51:46,709 --> 01:51:45,360 the speed of light 2682 01:51:49,030 --> 01:51:46,719 it's exact 2683 01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:49,040 what is going on here all of this is 2684 01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:51,679 just a little bit too perfect isn't it 2685 01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:55,520 and and then when you take 25 920 you 2686 01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:57,040 multiply that 2687 01:52:02,229 --> 01:51:59,679 by this 186 000 2688 01:52:03,430 --> 01:52:02,239 miles per second right and you end up 2689 01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:03,440 with 2690 01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:06,239 483 million that's the distance between 2691 01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:08,639 jupiter and the sun 2692 01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:10,880 what a surprise that the sun and jupiter 2693 01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:13,520 are exactly 10 times different 2694 01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:17,760 in their diameter jupiter's 86 400 miles 2695 01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:18,960 diameter 2696 01:52:23,189 --> 01:52:21,440 we're talking about harmonic ratios here 2697 01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:23,199 yeah harmonics 2698 01:52:26,770 --> 01:52:25,440 and and and here's here's the thing 2699 01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:26,780 robert um 2700 01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:28,320 [Music] 2701 01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:30,560 5 000 years ago 2702 01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:33,360 3000 bc 2703 01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:36,560 the nomadic tribes 2704 01:52:41,589 --> 01:52:39,280 going through the sahara desert 2705 01:52:43,990 --> 01:52:41,599 somehow magically 2706 01:52:46,950 --> 01:52:44,000 get together 2707 01:52:50,709 --> 01:52:46,960 bring together upper and lower egypt 2708 01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:50,719 and then 200 years later 200 years they 2709 01:52:55,669 --> 01:52:53,679 went from dig forging for seeds in the 2710 01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:55,679 dirt right 2711 01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:57,199 in the sand 2712 01:53:01,109 --> 01:53:00,400 to understanding these concepts 2713 01:53:07,270 --> 01:53:01,119 to 2714 01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:07,280 of of the earth and the speed of light 2715 01:53:12,229 --> 01:53:09,760 and the golden ratio and pi 2716 01:53:14,629 --> 01:53:12,239 and applied all of these concepts to the 2717 01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:14,639 engineering that went into the great 2718 01:53:20,229 --> 01:53:15,760 pyramid 2719 01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:20,239 200 years after just roaming the desert 2720 01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:22,560 how is that possible it doesn't make any 2721 01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:23,920 sense unless there's something else 2722 01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:27,760 divine or things are much older than we 2723 01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:30,000 were taught yeah i think it's probably 2724 01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:32,320 some combination so if you think about 2725 01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:34,560 it also i actually think that over the 2726 01:53:38,550 --> 01:53:36,239 next 200 years 2727 01:53:40,629 --> 01:53:38,560 the amount of conscious expansion 2728 01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:40,639 humanity is going to experience 2729 01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:42,560 is going to be a leap 2730 01:53:46,470 --> 01:53:44,080 it's going to be a leap it's already 2731 01:53:48,310 --> 01:53:46,480 happening right now it may be even why 2732 01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:48,320 we're looking at the universe expanding 2733 01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:50,320 faster than the speed of light now which 2734 01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:51,920 means that if the universe expands 2735 01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:53,520 faster than speed of light shouldn't 2736 01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:55,280 time then go backwards 2737 01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:56,560 or maybe 2738 01:54:02,149 --> 01:54:00,000 okay wait a minute here's my notes 2739 01:54:04,870 --> 01:54:02,159 here's my notes from five minutes ago 2740 01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:04,880 the last thing that i wrote down 2741 01:54:10,870 --> 01:54:08,080 entropy and time right 2742 01:54:12,310 --> 01:54:10,880 well i mean what's what is the anagram 2743 01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:12,320 of time 2744 01:54:15,750 --> 01:54:14,000 i said that so time and gravity are 2745 01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:15,760 associated right everyone knows this you 2746 01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:17,199 saw the movie interstellar you talked 2747 01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:19,840 about kip thorne yep 2748 01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:26,550 let me interrupt 2749 01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:29,360 kip thorne's book the science of 2750 01:54:32,310 --> 01:54:30,880 interstellar 2751 01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:32,320 one of the best books written in the 2752 01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:34,800 last 10 years and i recommend it to 2753 01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:36,639 anybody 2754 01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:38,239 excellent because it's also written for 2755 01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:40,320 anybody that's something i like about it 2756 01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:42,000 right physics should be 2757 01:54:46,470 --> 01:54:44,000 explainable and should be understandable 2758 01:54:47,189 --> 01:54:46,480 should be something we can comprehend 2759 01:54:48,629 --> 01:54:47,199 but 2760 01:54:49,910 --> 01:54:48,639 you know remember that one scene in 2761 01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,920 interstellar where they landed on the 2762 01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:51,440 planet that was close to the black hole 2763 01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:53,520 gargantuan and they were there for only 2764 01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:56,560 like 45 minutes but 23 years had passed 2765 01:55:00,310 --> 01:54:58,400 this is something a phenomenon that we 2766 01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,320 refer to as time dilation right time 2767 01:55:04,149 --> 01:55:02,320 dilation because of the extreme gravity 2768 01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:04,159 that they were sort of very in close 2769 01:55:07,270 --> 01:55:06,480 proximity to right 2770 01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:07,280 so 2771 01:55:13,189 --> 01:55:10,159 we cannot separate gravity in time 2772 01:55:14,550 --> 01:55:13,199 and space so we have time space or space 2773 01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:14,560 time whatever you want to call it the 2774 01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:16,239 two things are connected you can't 2775 01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:18,800 separate the two we measure the 2776 01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:20,080 distances 2777 01:55:23,350 --> 01:55:21,199 in space 2778 01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:23,360 with time measurements don't we 2779 01:55:26,629 --> 01:55:25,440 we measure it in light years the 2780 01:55:29,270 --> 01:55:26,639 distances 2781 01:55:31,750 --> 01:55:29,280 right we say it's 50 miles away right 2782 01:55:34,629 --> 01:55:31,760 and we can travel at 50 miles per hour 2783 01:55:36,950 --> 01:55:34,639 right so we measure the two things in an 2784 01:55:38,550 --> 01:55:36,960 interrelated way right 2785 01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:38,560 so when we when we think about it in 2786 01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:41,199 that context if time and space can be 2787 01:55:46,550 --> 01:55:43,840 separated and therefore time and gravity 2788 01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,560 are intrinsic to one another 2789 01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:48,159 then you can look at what is the 2790 01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:49,360 opposite 2791 01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:52,000 what does a laser do with light it emits 2792 01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:54,719 light doesn't it 2793 01:55:57,990 --> 01:55:56,400 light is emitted 2794 01:55:59,430 --> 01:55:58,000 and that's what we say with a laser a 2795 01:56:02,390 --> 01:55:59,440 laser is light 2796 01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:02,400 amplification of stimulated emission of 2797 01:56:05,990 --> 01:56:04,480 radiation that's what laser is an 2798 01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:06,000 acronym for most people don't know that 2799 01:56:08,870 --> 01:56:07,199 acronym 2800 01:56:11,510 --> 01:56:08,880 right so light amplification of 2801 01:56:12,830 --> 01:56:11,520 stimulated emission of radiation okay so 2802 01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:12,840 now we take 2803 01:56:17,910 --> 01:56:16,080 laser and we then say emission is the 2804 01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:17,920 key word here 2805 01:56:23,589 --> 01:56:19,040 what is 2806 01:56:26,790 --> 01:56:24,550 time 2807 01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:26,800 it is 2808 01:56:30,709 --> 01:56:29,599 so wait wait 2809 01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:30,719 really 2810 01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:33,040 so emission of light 2811 01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:34,320 and time 2812 01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:35,440 is 2813 01:56:42,070 --> 01:56:40,080 a dark photon in a way 2814 01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:42,080 so you could say that i said earlier 2815 01:56:46,310 --> 01:56:43,840 before the break that 2816 01:56:48,629 --> 01:56:46,320 light is not the absence or sorry 2817 01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:48,639 darkness is not the absence of light 2818 01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:49,920 rather i believe it's the opposite 2819 01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:51,040 condition 2820 01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:52,000 of it 2821 01:56:54,870 --> 01:56:53,440 okay so then if you have an opposite 2822 01:56:57,109 --> 01:56:54,880 condition you can think of it like an 2823 01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:57,119 led screen the way i like to look at it 2824 01:57:00,870 --> 01:56:58,960 is like this we go to a football game 2825 01:57:02,790 --> 01:57:00,880 and we do a wave you've done a wave in a 2826 01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:02,800 stadium right where you all stand up and 2827 01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:03,760 go 2828 01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:05,360 now are you moving are you traveling 2829 01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:07,520 around the stadium or is the wave 2830 01:57:10,629 --> 01:57:09,520 what's propagating what we perceive as 2831 01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,639 traveling 2832 01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:12,719 right so let's say 2833 01:57:16,470 --> 01:57:14,800 you know you have an earthquake in japan 2834 01:57:18,550 --> 01:57:16,480 and there's a massive earthquake and so 2835 01:57:20,229 --> 01:57:18,560 a tsunami comes across so are the water 2836 01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:20,239 molecules that end up on the shores of 2837 01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:23,599 california originally originating from 2838 01:57:28,229 --> 01:57:24,480 japan 2839 01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:28,239 don't move they stay in the same 2840 01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:30,320 position what's happening is you have an 2841 01:57:34,390 --> 01:57:33,199 on excitation and an off excitation 2842 01:57:35,589 --> 01:57:34,400 that's correct 2843 01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:35,599 just like 2844 01:57:39,430 --> 01:57:37,599 an led on a screen 2845 01:57:41,350 --> 01:57:39,440 so if a ball a ping pong ball goes 2846 01:57:42,470 --> 01:57:41,360 across you play pong back in the 70s 2847 01:57:44,229 --> 01:57:42,480 right 2848 01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:44,239 is the ball really traveling is the 2849 01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:45,760 light really traveling or is it really 2850 01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:46,639 just 2851 01:57:51,270 --> 01:57:48,880 the perception of traveling 2852 01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:51,280 because each individual led is turning 2853 01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:52,719 on then turning off then turning on them 2854 01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:54,000 turning off the turning and it's 2855 01:57:58,310 --> 01:57:56,080 following a wave propagation across you 2856 01:58:01,430 --> 01:57:58,320 follow what i'm saying i do well isn't 2857 01:58:02,629 --> 01:58:01,440 that i our entire existence 2858 01:58:03,750 --> 01:58:02,639 oh yeah 2859 01:58:05,189 --> 01:58:03,760 that's what i'm saying it's a 2860 01:58:07,430 --> 01:58:05,199 holographic 2861 01:58:10,229 --> 01:58:07,440 right christian universe so as a 2862 01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:10,239 holographic simulation it's all based on 2863 01:58:14,870 --> 01:58:13,040 our perception and our judgments inform 2864 01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:14,880 our illusions 2865 01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:16,000 this is where it comes back to 2866 01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:17,440 consciousness 2867 01:58:20,470 --> 01:58:19,520 so wait a minute that means that the 2868 01:58:24,629 --> 01:58:20,480 opposite 2869 01:58:26,870 --> 01:58:24,639 of time is emission of light emit 2870 01:58:30,870 --> 01:58:26,880 and time maybe another way to look at it 2871 01:58:35,189 --> 01:58:32,709 this is what i said earlier the 2872 01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:35,199 architect is you 2873 01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:37,920 the architect is each one of us 2874 01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:40,080 what we consider is our destiny is 2875 01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:41,920 really just the free will of the higher 2876 01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:43,440 self 2877 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:51,589 if if that is the case 2878 01:58:57,990 --> 01:58:55,830 then is it difficult for us to see 2879 01:58:59,830 --> 01:58:58,000 other light forms or life forms 2880 01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:59,840 throughout the universe 2881 01:59:04,950 --> 01:59:01,679 because they could be living on a 2882 01:59:10,550 --> 01:59:07,669 it could be longer could be shorter and 2883 01:59:12,709 --> 01:59:10,560 our reference of dimensions i believe is 2884 01:59:14,470 --> 01:59:12,719 completely wrong 2885 01:59:15,990 --> 01:59:14,480 right so carl sagan did a really good 2886 01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:16,000 job explaining this once and he talked 2887 01:59:18,950 --> 01:59:17,280 about there's a good video on youtube 2888 01:59:20,870 --> 01:59:18,960 about it where he talks about if an 2889 01:59:24,149 --> 01:59:20,880 apple falls through a two-dimensional 2890 01:59:25,750 --> 01:59:24,159 land of flatlanders right 2891 01:59:27,589 --> 01:59:25,760 what would they perceive all they would 2892 01:59:29,669 --> 01:59:27,599 see would be slices of the apple falling 2893 01:59:30,709 --> 01:59:29,679 through their world right they wouldn't 2894 01:59:32,550 --> 01:59:30,719 be able to perceive it in the third 2895 01:59:34,390 --> 01:59:32,560 dimension because until they had the 2896 01:59:35,910 --> 01:59:34,400 cognition or the ability to perceive in 2897 01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:35,920 that higher dimension they wouldn't be 2898 01:59:39,589 --> 01:59:38,480 able to see in that higher dimension 2899 01:59:40,870 --> 01:59:39,599 so 2900 01:59:43,270 --> 01:59:40,880 and we don't even know how to describe 2901 01:59:44,709 --> 01:59:43,280 it because how do you describe 2902 01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,719 something that's a phenomenon in a 2903 01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:46,480 higher dimension without using words 2904 01:59:50,310 --> 01:59:48,400 associated from that higher dimension 2905 01:59:52,229 --> 01:59:50,320 right which which 2906 01:59:54,310 --> 01:59:52,239 words that we don't have a definition 2907 01:59:55,270 --> 01:59:54,320 for to explain it and communicate it 2908 01:59:57,189 --> 01:59:55,280 anyway 2909 01:59:58,709 --> 01:59:57,199 that's right and maybe that's why 2910 02:00:01,589 --> 01:59:58,719 psychedelics can be very powerful 2911 02:00:03,030 --> 02:00:01,599 because it helps people to see it before 2912 02:00:04,390 --> 02:00:03,040 they actually start to experience it 2913 02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:04,400 differently you start seeing colors 2914 02:00:07,750 --> 02:00:05,520 differently 2915 02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:07,760 i don't believe psychedelics re you know 2916 02:00:12,709 --> 02:00:08,639 are 2917 02:00:15,109 --> 02:00:12,719 believe psychedelics 2918 02:00:16,629 --> 02:00:15,119 when used properly are revealing the 2919 02:00:18,550 --> 02:00:16,639 illusion 2920 02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:18,560 isn't that the laboratory measurement 2921 02:00:23,669 --> 02:00:21,360 that may be needed to 2922 02:00:26,709 --> 02:00:23,679 to find a parallel world and understand 2923 02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:26,719 it in a scientific sense it could very 2924 02:00:29,669 --> 02:00:27,760 well be 2925 02:00:31,990 --> 02:00:29,679 but bear with me for just a second so 2926 02:00:33,030 --> 02:00:32,000 basically the way i see this 2927 02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:33,040 is that 2928 02:00:37,510 --> 02:00:35,679 if you live in a conscious universe 2929 02:00:39,589 --> 02:00:37,520 right and all of the experiences that we 2930 02:00:41,589 --> 02:00:39,599 have within that conscious universe 2931 02:00:43,669 --> 02:00:41,599 are intended to give us 2932 02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:43,679 experiences of growth let's assume that 2933 02:00:46,550 --> 02:00:45,760 we start off as a grasshopper 2934 02:00:48,229 --> 02:00:46,560 right 2935 02:00:50,229 --> 02:00:48,239 now i'm not asking anyone to do any 2936 02:00:51,990 --> 02:00:50,239 psychedelics here i'm not advocating for 2937 02:00:54,310 --> 02:00:52,000 it but i'll say this let's say that a 2938 02:00:55,990 --> 02:00:54,320 grasshopper lives in a field and that 2939 02:00:57,750 --> 02:00:56,000 field is a pretty large field the 2940 02:00:59,750 --> 02:00:57,760 grasshoppers don't live very long maybe 2941 02:01:02,070 --> 02:00:59,760 a few weeks i don't even know how long 2942 02:01:04,070 --> 02:01:02,080 the life span of a grasshopper is 2943 02:01:05,830 --> 02:01:04,080 but let's assume that the grasshopper 2944 02:01:08,550 --> 02:01:05,840 lives in this field and it believes that 2945 02:01:11,109 --> 02:01:08,560 that field is its universe it knows 2946 02:01:12,709 --> 02:01:11,119 nothing more than that universe 2947 02:01:14,470 --> 02:01:12,719 so if it were talking to its grasshopper 2948 02:01:15,750 --> 02:01:14,480 friends it would say this is my universe 2949 02:01:16,950 --> 02:01:15,760 this is the whole world there's nothing 2950 02:01:19,510 --> 02:01:16,960 more here 2951 02:01:21,669 --> 02:01:19,520 it dies it comes back let's say it comes 2952 02:01:24,229 --> 02:01:21,679 back and advances to a monkey 2953 02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:24,239 now it lives in a jungle environment 2954 02:01:28,310 --> 02:01:27,119 and it's able to see more flora and more 2955 02:01:29,910 --> 02:01:28,320 fauna 2956 02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:29,920 there's more experiences there's new 2957 02:01:33,669 --> 02:01:31,360 life forms 2958 02:01:35,910 --> 02:01:33,679 it's more biodiverse 2959 02:01:37,669 --> 02:01:35,920 right in that environment so as it 2960 02:01:39,510 --> 02:01:37,679 expands its consciousness it realizes 2961 02:01:41,669 --> 02:01:39,520 there's more than just a field there's a 2962 02:01:43,990 --> 02:01:41,679 whole jungle but it doesn't yet know 2963 02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:44,000 about the existence of a city that might 2964 02:01:47,669 --> 02:01:45,760 just be on the other side of a mountain 2965 02:01:49,910 --> 02:01:47,679 from its distance 2966 02:01:51,750 --> 02:01:49,920 so then let's say it you know in that 2967 02:01:53,510 --> 02:01:51,760 life it can experience 2968 02:01:56,310 --> 02:01:53,520 the other animals in the jungle that 2969 02:01:58,310 --> 02:01:56,320 might see a sloth or it might see 2970 02:01:59,990 --> 02:01:58,320 other things they're birds macaques 2971 02:02:01,910 --> 02:02:00,000 whatever it might see 2972 02:02:04,629 --> 02:02:01,920 all these different kinds of other 2973 02:02:06,950 --> 02:02:04,639 monkeys or other animals 2974 02:02:10,470 --> 02:02:06,960 it dies it comes back and it's born in 2975 02:02:14,470 --> 02:02:11,990 never travels 2976 02:02:16,390 --> 02:02:14,480 never gets on a plane 2977 02:02:19,350 --> 02:02:16,400 that person might actually perceive that 2978 02:02:21,350 --> 02:02:19,360 their entire world and everyone in it is 2979 02:02:23,669 --> 02:02:21,360 going to see the world like they do and 2980 02:02:25,750 --> 02:02:23,679 think just as they do 2981 02:02:27,350 --> 02:02:25,760 that's their world there's a certain 2982 02:02:28,790 --> 02:02:27,360 amount you know maybe there's not such a 2983 02:02:30,870 --> 02:02:28,800 diverse 2984 02:02:32,870 --> 02:02:30,880 you know flora fauna environment maybe 2985 02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:32,880 they live in a rural place where you 2986 02:02:36,149 --> 02:02:34,639 know i grew up in nebraska for part of 2987 02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:36,159 my life after i lived in england i moved 2988 02:02:40,070 --> 02:02:38,560 to nebraska i got to tassel corn i 2989 02:02:41,510 --> 02:02:40,080 thought corn was the world right that 2990 02:02:42,950 --> 02:02:41,520 was it 2991 02:02:44,950 --> 02:02:42,960 well guess what there's more to the 2992 02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:44,960 world let's say now that person comes 2993 02:02:48,629 --> 02:02:47,040 back into a different life 2994 02:02:51,189 --> 02:02:48,639 they come back and they're living in a 2995 02:02:52,470 --> 02:02:51,199 metropolitan city somewhere in the world 2996 02:02:55,109 --> 02:02:52,480 they travel the world they've been 2997 02:02:56,629 --> 02:02:55,119 everywhere they've been to 140 countries 2998 02:02:58,709 --> 02:02:56,639 they know experiences they understand 2999 02:03:00,629 --> 02:02:58,719 cultures they understand diversity of 3000 02:03:02,310 --> 02:03:00,639 thought 3001 02:03:04,390 --> 02:03:02,320 they start to ascend higher so then 3002 02:03:05,910 --> 02:03:04,400 what's the next level 3003 02:03:07,669 --> 02:03:05,920 they've they've already seen different 3004 02:03:10,149 --> 02:03:07,679 races around the world they didn't see 3005 02:03:11,270 --> 02:03:10,159 different species of animals flora and 3006 02:03:14,310 --> 02:03:11,280 fauna 3007 02:03:16,629 --> 02:03:14,320 the next level of that expansion why 3008 02:03:19,750 --> 02:03:16,639 would it not be any different than the 3009 02:03:20,950 --> 02:03:19,760 grasshopper going to the monkey going to 3010 02:03:23,510 --> 02:03:20,960 the man 3011 02:03:25,750 --> 02:03:23,520 going to the world traveler 3012 02:03:27,589 --> 02:03:25,760 you follow what i'm saying ew our next 3013 02:03:30,390 --> 02:03:27,599 level of consciousness 3014 02:03:32,390 --> 02:03:30,400 might just be higher dimension 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this is my 3147 02:09:41,750 --> 02:09:39,760 wheelhouse right here 3148 02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:41,760 this is a fantastic show tonight and i 3149 02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:43,360 hope that everybody 3150 02:09:47,510 --> 02:09:46,320 is is hanging with me and and my thought 3151 02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:47,520 process 3152 02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:50,320 and so let's go back where we we just 3153 02:09:56,470 --> 02:09:53,520 left off robert if we may in that 3154 02:10:00,390 --> 02:09:56,480 if we are not a generation away that we 3155 02:10:02,950 --> 02:10:00,400 are in the now now of of of this moment 3156 02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:02,960 of these possibilities there are a few 3157 02:10:07,750 --> 02:10:05,119 other things that are happening at the 3158 02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:07,760 same time science is pushing 3159 02:10:12,550 --> 02:10:09,840 as hard as they can 3160 02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:12,560 uh to make contact and to find out we've 3161 02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:15,040 got james webb we have tess we have 3162 02:10:19,030 --> 02:10:16,960 astronomers and cosmologists and 3163 02:10:22,069 --> 02:10:19,040 astrophysicists and every telescope 3164 02:10:23,990 --> 02:10:22,079 pointing out in exoplanets it's all 3165 02:10:25,510 --> 02:10:24,000 coming at us and we have the ability 3166 02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:25,520 with our brains 3167 02:10:30,950 --> 02:10:28,480 to think about these things and now 3168 02:10:35,030 --> 02:10:30,960 technically we're at a level 3169 02:10:37,189 --> 02:10:35,040 uh 25 years ago one exoplanet right 3170 02:10:39,430 --> 02:10:37,199 now we know that every single star 3171 02:10:43,350 --> 02:10:39,440 everywhere has got at least one 3172 02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:43,360 exoplanet and we are now able to 3173 02:10:48,470 --> 02:10:45,760 look at planets uh 3174 02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:48,480 orbiting stars and star systems 3175 02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:50,960 thousands if not millions of light years 3176 02:10:54,709 --> 02:10:53,280 away this is extraordinary and we are at 3177 02:10:59,350 --> 02:10:54,719 a moment now 3178 02:11:00,629 --> 02:10:59,360 are we are we ready as as a species as 3179 02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:00,639 earthlings 3180 02:11:05,030 --> 02:11:03,280 for what's about to happen next because 3181 02:11:07,510 --> 02:11:05,040 the pursuit of this 3182 02:11:09,830 --> 02:11:07,520 is going to have some conclusions very 3183 02:11:11,830 --> 02:11:09,840 soon so this is kind of an existential 3184 02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:11,840 type question right it is very 3185 02:11:16,550 --> 02:11:14,239 existential because i think you know 3186 02:11:18,550 --> 02:11:16,560 what almost not existential though this 3187 02:11:20,310 --> 02:11:18,560 it's almost tangible it's something it 3188 02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:20,320 was very tangible the question is do we 3189 02:11:25,589 --> 02:11:22,880 have our [\h__\h] together yes 3190 02:11:26,870 --> 02:11:25,599 right um i think 3191 02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:26,880 here i'll give you the good news and 3192 02:11:31,270 --> 02:11:28,639 i'll give you the the bad news because 3193 02:11:33,830 --> 02:11:31,280 everything has an equal opposite 3194 02:11:36,470 --> 02:11:33,840 right um every action must have an equal 3195 02:11:38,709 --> 02:11:36,480 opposite reaction 3196 02:11:40,390 --> 02:11:38,719 okay grasshopper okay 3197 02:11:42,310 --> 02:11:40,400 i think this is where there's comfort 3198 02:11:44,550 --> 02:11:42,320 and solace for me 3199 02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:44,560 in this 3200 02:11:49,750 --> 02:11:47,440 we cannot have a higher 3201 02:11:51,189 --> 02:11:49,760 order experience and higher order 3202 02:11:53,510 --> 02:11:51,199 consciousness 3203 02:11:56,390 --> 02:11:53,520 without the context 3204 02:12:00,950 --> 02:11:56,400 of lower order consciousness also 3205 02:12:02,790 --> 02:12:00,960 happening simultaneously you cannot have 3206 02:12:05,030 --> 02:12:02,800 very bright light 3207 02:12:08,310 --> 02:12:05,040 without some impact 3208 02:12:10,229 --> 02:12:08,320 on time and gravity 3209 02:12:12,470 --> 02:12:10,239 so think about that for a moment 3210 02:12:14,629 --> 02:12:12,480 let's just say that in order to let's 3211 02:12:16,550 --> 02:12:14,639 say that to express light 3212 02:12:18,229 --> 02:12:16,560 in a way i came back to my desk one day 3213 02:12:20,310 --> 02:12:18,239 i had a vitruvian man 3214 02:12:22,870 --> 02:12:20,320 that was made by tashan and i had it 3215 02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:22,880 framed and uh and it was i took it off 3216 02:12:26,790 --> 02:12:24,400 the wall because i was like oh this is 3217 02:12:29,109 --> 02:12:26,800 an exact scale replica so i wanted to 3218 02:12:31,109 --> 02:12:29,119 measure everything to scale to see if it 3219 02:12:32,470 --> 02:12:31,119 was exactly the scale and indeed it was 3220 02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:32,480 it was perfectly the scale and guess 3221 02:12:36,470 --> 02:12:35,040 what leonardo da vinci's circle of 3222 02:12:40,149 --> 02:12:36,480 vitruvian man 3223 02:12:43,510 --> 02:12:40,159 was surprise surprise a radius of 4.32 3224 02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:45,430 this has been around a long time how is 3225 02:12:48,709 --> 02:12:47,599 it me that's finding this right 4.32 3226 02:12:50,470 --> 02:12:48,719 inches 3227 02:12:53,189 --> 02:12:50,480 that seems kind of funny doesn't it i 3228 02:12:54,550 --> 02:12:53,199 mean you know what 32 means yep kind of 3229 02:12:58,149 --> 02:12:54,560 interesting 3230 02:13:00,310 --> 02:12:58,159 so that means that the diameter is 864 3231 02:13:03,030 --> 02:13:00,320 that's really interesting and 3232 02:13:03,910 --> 02:13:03,040 the circle's circumference is euler 3233 02:13:06,229 --> 02:13:03,920 number 3234 02:13:08,310 --> 02:13:06,239 so i had this on my desk and while i was 3235 02:13:11,189 --> 02:13:08,320 looking at it the sun came through the 3236 02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:11,199 window and it made this perfectly shaped 3237 02:13:14,790 --> 02:13:13,360 like snake-shaped 3238 02:13:16,229 --> 02:13:14,800 rainbow 3239 02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:16,239 over the vitruvian man i took a 3240 02:13:19,669 --> 02:13:17,840 photograph of it i posted on social 3241 02:13:20,870 --> 02:13:19,679 media i was like wow check this out and 3242 02:13:22,870 --> 02:13:20,880 it actually started out the way the 3243 02:13:24,790 --> 02:13:22,880 light came in it came up his feet and 3244 02:13:27,030 --> 02:13:24,800 then slowly came up and covered his 3245 02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:27,040 whole body with this beautiful like 3246 02:13:32,390 --> 02:13:29,440 rainbow snake looked like a rainbow 3247 02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:32,400 snake i thought this is pretty cool 3248 02:13:38,229 --> 02:13:35,920 well what if the higher order awareness 3249 02:13:39,830 --> 02:13:38,239 and understanding is that 3250 02:13:41,830 --> 02:13:39,840 we can experience light in a different 3251 02:13:43,750 --> 02:13:41,840 way just as we can experience music in a 3252 02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:43,760 different way just as i said synesthesia 3253 02:13:49,109 --> 02:13:46,880 for numbers for me means that i see the 3254 02:13:51,830 --> 02:13:49,119 number two as orange i see the number 3255 02:13:52,870 --> 02:13:51,840 six says blue i see the number eight as 3256 02:13:55,589 --> 02:13:52,880 violet 3257 02:13:57,669 --> 02:13:55,599 right all these numbers have colors but 3258 02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:57,679 then people that experience music and i 3259 02:14:03,109 --> 02:13:59,280 have the same thing as well when i 3260 02:14:08,390 --> 02:14:04,390 have you ever seen that before have you 3261 02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:09,430 maybe 3262 02:14:17,109 --> 02:14:15,520 higher experience requires a higher 3263 02:14:19,189 --> 02:14:17,119 consciousness 3264 02:14:21,589 --> 02:14:19,199 and everyone can access it it's it's 3265 02:14:23,750 --> 02:14:21,599 something as simple as believing you can 3266 02:14:27,350 --> 02:14:23,760 do it you know the cia did test you can 3267 02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:27,360 find a lot about this on remote viewing 3268 02:14:31,990 --> 02:14:29,920 and they found anyone could remote view 3269 02:14:33,189 --> 02:14:32,000 if they taught them the method to do it 3270 02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:33,199 and they actually believe that they 3271 02:14:37,589 --> 02:14:36,000 could do it you can all remote view if 3272 02:14:39,430 --> 02:14:37,599 you can remote view 3273 02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:39,440 even to the point of seeing the rings of 3274 02:14:41,669 --> 02:14:40,880 jupiter 3275 02:14:45,030 --> 02:14:41,679 right 3276 02:14:48,390 --> 02:14:45,040 or or seeing 20 years beforehand a boat 3277 02:14:50,550 --> 02:14:48,400 exploding off of the coast of somalia 3278 02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:50,560 right and its whole being torn out this 3279 02:14:54,950 --> 02:14:53,440 is all in detail can be found in the 3280 02:14:56,790 --> 02:14:54,960 stargate project 3281 02:14:59,189 --> 02:14:56,800 the cia i'm sure you've probably talked 3282 02:15:01,189 --> 02:14:59,199 about it here on this show before right 3283 02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:01,199 i've had many guests from stargate on 3284 02:15:06,310 --> 02:15:04,000 this show so if we can do that then we 3285 02:15:07,589 --> 02:15:06,320 could probably all learn how to expand 3286 02:15:09,589 --> 02:15:07,599 and raise our consciousness now the 3287 02:15:10,629 --> 02:15:09,599 first step is to understand that our 3288 02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:10,639 brain 3289 02:15:16,229 --> 02:15:14,239 is not a storage device of information 3290 02:15:17,990 --> 02:15:16,239 it's not a hard drive 3291 02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:18,000 for all of our memories 3292 02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:21,360 our brain i see it more as a radio 3293 02:15:25,669 --> 02:15:23,679 it's a radio i have a friend a sim 3294 02:15:27,270 --> 02:15:25,679 herman who says i think he's right on 3295 02:15:29,669 --> 02:15:27,280 this that looking for your thoughts 3296 02:15:32,229 --> 02:15:29,679 inside your brain is like trying to look 3297 02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:32,239 for the radio announcer inside the radio 3298 02:15:35,589 --> 02:15:34,159 box or in the side by screen here you're 3299 02:15:37,589 --> 02:15:35,599 not inside my screen you're in a 3300 02:15:39,830 --> 02:15:37,599 different place 3301 02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:39,840 our brains are radio receivers or like 3302 02:15:43,510 --> 02:15:41,520 antenna 3303 02:15:45,510 --> 02:15:43,520 whose tuning dial 3304 02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:45,520 for frequency is your heart your 3305 02:15:49,109 --> 02:15:47,280 emotional state 3306 02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:49,119 you can raise your frequency and by 3307 02:15:51,669 --> 02:15:50,880 raising your frequency 3308 02:15:53,990 --> 02:15:51,679 through 3309 02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:54,000 getting into an emotional state that is 3310 02:15:58,550 --> 02:15:56,719 going to be about joy and happiness and 3311 02:16:00,790 --> 02:15:58,560 this becomes more of a decision it's not 3312 02:16:02,550 --> 02:16:00,800 a circumstance you have to break away 3313 02:16:04,310 --> 02:16:02,560 from the belief system 3314 02:16:07,189 --> 02:16:04,320 that your happiness is tied to your 3315 02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:07,199 circumstance it's not your happiness is 3316 02:16:11,030 --> 02:16:09,040 a decision that you make 3317 02:16:13,669 --> 02:16:11,040 it's a decision we all make and when we 3318 02:16:15,589 --> 02:16:13,679 can break away from that lower order 3319 02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:15,599 type of thinking where we're basically 3320 02:16:18,629 --> 02:16:16,880 whip-sawing according to the 3321 02:16:21,109 --> 02:16:18,639 circumstances in our life 3322 02:16:24,069 --> 02:16:21,119 then we start to ascend and raise our 3323 02:16:27,030 --> 02:16:24,079 vibration and by doing so we can access 3324 02:16:29,990 --> 02:16:27,040 new ideas we can get patented ideas we 3325 02:16:32,709 --> 02:16:30,000 can we can create things we can access 3326 02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:32,719 this field the akashic field 3327 02:16:37,110 --> 02:16:35,599 and i have been lucky to to surf in that 3328 02:16:39,509 --> 02:16:37,120 field 3329 02:16:41,349 --> 02:16:39,519 many times or i have many patents 3330 02:16:42,790 --> 02:16:41,359 and i love bringing those things in and 3331 02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:42,800 i don't feel like i own them at all 3332 02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:44,719 because they're not mine to own 3333 02:16:48,950 --> 02:16:47,280 anyone can access this field if they so 3334 02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:48,960 chose to do so 3335 02:16:52,549 --> 02:16:51,120 so it's a matter of us raising our 3336 02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:52,559 consciousness so then when we raise our 3337 02:16:56,150 --> 02:16:54,240 conscience to that level 3338 02:16:57,910 --> 02:16:56,160 we actually start to see 3339 02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:57,920 at a higher level 3340 02:17:02,469 --> 02:16:59,280 patterns 3341 02:17:05,110 --> 02:17:02,479 rather than perceiving chaos 3342 02:17:06,389 --> 02:17:05,120 patterns are also a frequency that we 3343 02:17:07,990 --> 02:17:06,399 can tap into 3344 02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:08,000 so if light 3345 02:17:10,629 --> 02:17:09,200 is also going to be tied to that 3346 02:17:12,790 --> 02:17:10,639 patterns maybe the higher dimension of 3347 02:17:14,629 --> 02:17:12,800 light might be to see more rainbows and 3348 02:17:17,349 --> 02:17:14,639 everything within it like a lot of 3349 02:17:18,629 --> 02:17:17,359 people describe the fifth dimension 3350 02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:18,639 right just as people that have had a 3351 02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:20,880 psychedelic experience with mushrooms in 3352 02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:23,280 particular say i saw rainbows everywhere 3353 02:17:26,629 --> 02:17:25,040 and then after they stopped being on 3354 02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:26,639 mushrooms they could actually see the 3355 02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:28,639 structure of walls and they can see the 3356 02:17:32,709 --> 02:17:31,120 structure of geometry all around them 3357 02:17:34,389 --> 02:17:32,719 right so it's kind of providing you with 3358 02:17:36,709 --> 02:17:34,399 training wheels to see the structure 3359 02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:36,719 that's already there that you have 3360 02:17:40,309 --> 02:17:38,719 shielded from your own vision 3361 02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:40,319 so let's say that higher order 3362 02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:41,519 experience 3363 02:17:44,629 --> 02:17:42,960 is to see light over there well guess 3364 02:17:48,709 --> 02:17:44,639 what 3365 02:17:50,309 --> 02:17:48,719 is by turning up the contrast 3366 02:17:52,549 --> 02:17:50,319 on your screen 3367 02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:52,559 now what is contrast when we turn up the 3368 02:17:58,230 --> 02:17:53,920 contrast what we're really doing is 3369 02:18:00,549 --> 02:17:58,240 we're adding darkness into the screen 3370 02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:00,559 it creates more contrast 3371 02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:03,040 so that we can have the context with 3372 02:18:08,070 --> 02:18:06,160 which to see this light in its 3373 02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:08,080 new differentiated state 3374 02:18:12,549 --> 02:18:10,639 its higher order state the rainbows and 3375 02:18:14,389 --> 02:18:12,559 everything in it maybe more sparkly 3376 02:18:16,549 --> 02:18:14,399 maybe it's more iridescent maybe it's 3377 02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:16,559 got more golden flecks within it 3378 02:18:21,669 --> 02:18:18,719 and we just never noticed it before but 3379 02:18:24,790 --> 02:18:21,679 somehow by turning up the contrast 3380 02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:24,800 by adding the darkness to the backdrop 3381 02:18:28,150 --> 02:18:26,880 we see it better it's no different than 3382 02:18:30,230 --> 02:18:28,160 putting a diamond that we're thinking 3383 02:18:33,509 --> 02:18:30,240 about buying for our sweetheart 3384 02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:33,519 on a black velvet piece of cloth 3385 02:18:36,790 --> 02:18:35,040 we want to put it on the darkest 3386 02:18:38,950 --> 02:18:36,800 background possible so that all the 3387 02:18:42,549 --> 02:18:38,960 light comes out of that diamond and we 3388 02:18:44,389 --> 02:18:42,559 can see all of its different facets 3389 02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:44,399 what if the experience that we're having 3390 02:18:47,190 --> 02:18:46,160 in the world right now to answer your 3391 02:18:49,429 --> 02:18:47,200 question 3392 02:18:50,950 --> 02:18:49,439 is the necessary one 3393 02:18:53,270 --> 02:18:50,960 in order for us to experience this 3394 02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:53,280 higher order consciousness there must 3395 02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:56,319 actually be an equal opposite 3396 02:18:59,910 --> 02:18:58,000 reflection that's also taking place 3397 02:19:02,230 --> 02:18:59,920 simultaneously 3398 02:19:03,589 --> 02:19:02,240 that there will be increased darkness in 3399 02:19:05,349 --> 02:19:03,599 this world 3400 02:19:07,990 --> 02:19:05,359 for us to be able to manifest the light 3401 02:19:09,030 --> 02:19:08,000 you ever noticed how all the movies talk 3402 02:19:11,270 --> 02:19:09,040 about 3403 02:19:13,190 --> 02:19:11,280 you know magic coming into the world 3404 02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:13,200 like lord of the rings it's always in 3405 02:19:17,509 --> 02:19:15,519 the context magic always somehow comes 3406 02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:17,519 out whenever there's like orcs in the 3407 02:19:20,950 --> 02:19:18,800 world 3408 02:19:23,509 --> 02:19:20,960 whenever there's some darkness and 3409 02:19:25,509 --> 02:19:23,519 really really bad stuff is happening 3410 02:19:29,429 --> 02:19:25,519 that's when the magician shows up when 3411 02:19:31,669 --> 02:19:29,439 the student is ready the teacher appears 3412 02:19:34,230 --> 02:19:31,679 is that by coincidence or is it just an 3413 02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:34,240 artifact of our station and state of 3414 02:19:37,750 --> 02:19:36,719 consciousness 3415 02:19:41,030 --> 02:19:37,760 isn't 3416 02:19:44,389 --> 02:19:41,040 uh the accidental 3417 02:19:45,830 --> 02:19:44,399 uh if you go back to the slit experiment 3418 02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:45,840 double slit 3419 02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:49,840 right and and and that was an accident 3420 02:19:54,710 --> 02:19:52,800 right but it allowed 3421 02:19:56,630 --> 02:19:54,720 science to 3422 02:19:57,830 --> 02:19:56,640 uh go wait a minute things aren't what 3423 02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:57,840 they seem 3424 02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:59,120 and if if 3425 02:20:03,110 --> 02:20:00,800 this if 3426 02:20:04,070 --> 02:20:03,120 if this is showing us 3427 02:20:04,870 --> 02:20:04,080 uh 3428 02:20:06,230 --> 02:20:04,880 how 3429 02:20:07,429 --> 02:20:06,240 light 3430 02:20:10,389 --> 02:20:07,439 can be 3431 02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:10,399 perceived differently through particles 3432 02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:13,520 and and maybe what wait a minute 3433 02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:17,520 isn't that applicable to everything then 3434 02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:19,120 right and just shouldn't 3435 02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:21,359 shouldn't science then just 3436 02:20:25,270 --> 02:20:23,600 start thinking outside of the box 3437 02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:25,280 yes 3438 02:20:28,790 --> 02:20:26,880 and therefore 3439 02:20:30,309 --> 02:20:28,800 right when you think about double slit 3440 02:20:31,750 --> 02:20:30,319 if you're getting mind bent on the whole 3441 02:20:33,349 --> 02:20:31,760 concept of double slit phenomena for 3442 02:20:35,910 --> 02:20:33,359 those people that aren't familiar with 3443 02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:35,920 double slit the way it works is that 3444 02:20:40,710 --> 02:20:38,800 if you fire a photon or electrons 3445 02:20:42,309 --> 02:20:40,720 right through these two slits two metal 3446 02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:42,319 slits 3447 02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:44,399 and you don't observe it 3448 02:20:47,349 --> 02:20:45,600 while it's going through those metal 3449 02:20:48,070 --> 02:20:47,359 slits it will leave a 3450 02:21:03,750 --> 02:20:48,080 a 3451 02:21:05,349 --> 02:21:03,760 observe it 3452 02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:05,359 the very act of turning on the 3453 02:21:09,910 --> 02:21:07,520 observation of that 3454 02:21:12,790 --> 02:21:09,920 makes it so that instead of having this 3455 02:21:14,469 --> 02:21:12,800 gradation you know distribution pattern 3456 02:21:15,830 --> 02:21:14,479 on this back wall after it's gone 3457 02:21:18,150 --> 02:21:15,840 through the slits 3458 02:21:20,309 --> 02:21:18,160 which then implies that it was a wave 3459 02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:20,319 that travels through those slits 3460 02:21:23,510 --> 02:21:22,000 then it all of a sudden just goes back 3461 02:21:27,670 --> 02:21:23,520 to slits 3462 02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:27,680 it's as if the photons and the electrons 3463 02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:28,960 are conscious 3464 02:21:31,750 --> 02:21:30,160 and know when they're going to be 3465 02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:31,760 observed now 3466 02:21:35,270 --> 02:21:33,760 already kind of a mind blower right but 3467 02:21:37,510 --> 02:21:35,280 let's apply something else called the 3468 02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:37,520 quantum eraser to this but you 3469 02:21:42,790 --> 02:21:41,040 understand my point though right if if 3470 02:21:43,670 --> 02:21:42,800 if something 3471 02:21:46,630 --> 02:21:43,680 uh 3472 02:21:47,550 --> 02:21:46,640 can react 3473 02:21:49,429 --> 02:21:47,560 to 3474 02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:49,439 observation 3475 02:21:54,150 --> 02:21:51,520 wait a minute you know and and 3476 02:21:56,070 --> 02:21:54,160 and they want us to understand and 3477 02:21:57,510 --> 02:21:56,080 believe that as fact 3478 02:21:58,630 --> 02:21:57,520 correct 3479 02:22:00,710 --> 02:21:58,640 well then 3480 02:22:01,830 --> 02:22:00,720 why do physicists have a problem with 3481 02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:01,840 ghosts 3482 02:22:07,030 --> 02:22:04,960 or why do physicists have a problem with 3483 02:22:09,990 --> 02:22:07,040 uh you know and now they're reaching 3484 02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:10,000 into parallel worlds and the multiverse 3485 02:22:12,950 --> 02:22:11,840 all of this is what this conscious 3486 02:22:17,030 --> 02:22:12,960 community 3487 02:22:19,030 --> 02:22:17,040 has been yelling about for so many years 3488 02:22:21,670 --> 02:22:19,040 but now 3489 02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:21,680 physics and quantum physics is going in 3490 02:22:26,469 --> 02:22:24,160 this direction i don't understand why 3491 02:22:29,270 --> 02:22:26,479 about it to me is that you know when you 3492 02:22:32,469 --> 02:22:29,280 look at it the the academic scientific 3493 02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:32,479 community is never the one who actually 3494 02:22:37,590 --> 02:22:35,280 comes up with the inventions or the new 3495 02:22:39,990 --> 02:22:37,600 understandings correct usually the guy 3496 02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:40,000 with the tin foil on his head that later 3497 02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:42,160 on in the movie 2012 when all of a 3498 02:22:44,870 --> 02:22:43,600 sudden the world's exploding it's the 3499 02:22:46,630 --> 02:22:44,880 end of the world everyone's like wow 3500 02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:46,640 this guy was right with the tin foil on 3501 02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:48,720 his head but no one ever gives that guy 3502 02:22:53,670 --> 02:22:50,960 the credit interestingly 3503 02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:53,680 so what often happens is we we tend to 3504 02:22:58,469 --> 02:22:55,600 perceive spirituality as this weird 3505 02:23:00,309 --> 02:22:58,479 kooky bizarre thing that's intangible 3506 02:23:02,550 --> 02:23:00,319 right it's it's not object you know it's 3507 02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:02,560 not something we can we can put 3508 02:23:06,870 --> 02:23:04,960 objective sort of scientific research 3509 02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:06,880 behind we can't measure it 3510 02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:08,720 but maybe spirituality is just the 3511 02:23:12,870 --> 02:23:10,880 science we don't understand yet 3512 02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:12,880 isn't that what schrodinger's cat is all 3513 02:23:16,389 --> 02:23:13,840 about 3514 02:23:18,230 --> 02:23:16,399 right yes absolutely and so this is 3515 02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:18,240 where the quantum eraser applied to the 3516 02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:20,160 double slit really comes in 3517 02:23:23,590 --> 02:23:21,920 so the quantum eraser is another test 3518 02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:23,600 because the double slit phenomena has 3519 02:23:26,790 --> 02:23:25,600 been tested and re-tested many many 3520 02:23:28,389 --> 02:23:26,800 times over 3521 02:23:30,550 --> 02:23:28,399 but it was only recently that the 3522 02:23:32,550 --> 02:23:30,560 quantum eraser went into effect so what 3523 02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:32,560 the quantum racer did was 3524 02:23:37,990 --> 02:23:35,359 it basically allowed 3525 02:23:40,230 --> 02:23:38,000 for there to be you know observation and 3526 02:23:42,070 --> 02:23:40,240 no observation at the same time so what 3527 02:23:44,790 --> 02:23:42,080 do i mean by this 3528 02:23:46,630 --> 02:23:44,800 what i mean is that it was a time effect 3529 02:23:47,750 --> 02:23:46,640 let's assume 3530 02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:47,760 that 3531 02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:49,520 the particles right before their 3532 02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:51,280 particles their waves they're going 3533 02:23:52,950 --> 02:23:52,240 through 3534 02:23:57,910 --> 02:23:52,960 and 3535 02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:57,920 the tape later on so let's say the tape 3536 02:24:05,510 --> 02:23:59,200 was never 3537 02:24:08,469 --> 02:24:05,520 somehow these exact same 3538 02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:08,479 waves and particle interactions 3539 02:24:13,349 --> 02:24:11,200 occurred as if it knew if it would ever 3540 02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:13,359 be observed 3541 02:24:18,070 --> 02:24:15,760 looking at time in a totally different 3542 02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:18,080 context so it wasn't going to be 3543 02:24:22,309 --> 02:24:20,560 observed until far after 3544 02:24:23,670 --> 02:24:22,319 but if it was ever going to be observed 3545 02:24:24,710 --> 02:24:23,680 in the future 3546 02:24:26,309 --> 02:24:24,720 somehow 3547 02:24:28,150 --> 02:24:26,319 the waves and particles acted 3548 02:24:29,910 --> 02:24:28,160 accordingly 3549 02:24:31,429 --> 02:24:29,920 based on whether or not it was ever 3550 02:24:33,429 --> 02:24:31,439 going to be observed 3551 02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:33,439 so what it tells us is that all 3552 02:24:38,309 --> 02:24:35,760 dimensions of time might actually be 3553 02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:38,319 acting simultaneously 3554 02:24:41,670 --> 02:24:39,920 and that what we think of is the 3555 02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:41,680 separate experience of the linearity of 3556 02:24:44,469 --> 02:24:42,479 time 3557 02:24:47,590 --> 02:24:44,479 might actually just be our own 3558 02:24:50,630 --> 02:24:47,600 conditioning bias and illusion 3559 02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:53,429 so 3560 02:24:59,190 --> 02:24:55,030 this is the 3561 02:25:02,469 --> 02:24:59,200 when i hear 3562 02:25:04,950 --> 02:25:02,479 uh any of the big rock star physicists 3563 02:25:08,230 --> 02:25:04,960 you know have this discussion 3564 02:25:11,670 --> 02:25:08,240 and they literally say with a straight 3565 02:25:15,190 --> 02:25:11,680 face right with a straight face 3566 02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:15,200 well uh you look at the particle 3567 02:25:22,469 --> 02:25:18,640 and it changes and it reacts and changes 3568 02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:22,479 another particle at an infinite distance 3569 02:25:26,469 --> 02:25:25,280 now wait a minute they're talking about 3570 02:25:27,429 --> 02:25:26,479 looking 3571 02:25:28,870 --> 02:25:27,439 right 3572 02:25:29,910 --> 02:25:28,880 when they say observe they're talking 3573 02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:29,920 about 3574 02:25:34,230 --> 02:25:31,840 looking at something 3575 02:25:37,270 --> 02:25:34,240 and and changing it 3576 02:25:39,510 --> 02:25:37,280 that is and and they want like i said 3577 02:25:41,670 --> 02:25:39,520 with a straight face they want the rest 3578 02:25:43,830 --> 02:25:41,680 of the world to accept this and they're 3579 02:25:46,630 --> 02:25:43,840 attempting to prove this 3580 02:25:47,429 --> 02:25:46,640 uh with numbers and measurement 3581 02:25:49,910 --> 02:25:47,439 and 3582 02:25:52,309 --> 02:25:49,920 that's that's pretty crazy but that's 3583 02:25:54,550 --> 02:25:52,319 also science fiction and that's the 3584 02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:54,560 world that we live in today right robert 3585 02:25:57,429 --> 02:25:56,160 that's where we know that's correct i 3586 02:25:59,270 --> 02:25:57,439 think you can 3587 02:26:01,750 --> 02:25:59,280 change the outcome 3588 02:26:03,670 --> 02:26:01,760 of whatever an experiment is 3589 02:26:06,710 --> 02:26:03,680 and we do this every day and it's called 3590 02:26:10,389 --> 02:26:06,720 the placebo effect 3591 02:26:12,469 --> 02:26:10,399 hard to beat 3592 02:26:14,389 --> 02:26:12,479 right because the placebo is the best 3593 02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:14,399 drug there ever has been 3594 02:26:17,349 --> 02:26:16,319 right i i'm from the pharmaceutical 3595 02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:17,359 industry 3596 02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:19,359 and i can tell you that placebo is tough 3597 02:26:24,950 --> 02:26:22,240 to beat because it's very very effective 3598 02:26:27,750 --> 02:26:24,960 because what we believe will happen 3599 02:26:29,590 --> 02:26:27,760 the summation of our expectations 3600 02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:29,600 becomes our reality 3601 02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:31,439 you know if if we look at wall street as 3602 02:26:34,550 --> 02:26:33,120 an example right let's just look at this 3603 02:26:36,550 --> 02:26:34,560 as one example 3604 02:26:38,710 --> 02:26:36,560 wall street may decide that 3605 02:26:40,230 --> 02:26:38,720 six months from now the price of 3606 02:26:42,230 --> 02:26:40,240 of lithium is going to go through the 3607 02:26:44,150 --> 02:26:42,240 roof 3608 02:26:45,830 --> 02:26:44,160 if everyone believes that there's going 3609 02:26:47,590 --> 02:26:45,840 to be a shortage on lithium because 3610 02:26:49,510 --> 02:26:47,600 there's some problem in taiwan or 3611 02:26:51,190 --> 02:26:49,520 something right with china coming up 3612 02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:51,200 what will happen to the price of lithium 3613 02:26:55,349 --> 02:26:52,960 today 3614 02:26:58,309 --> 02:26:55,359 it will jump to the expectation that was 3615 02:26:59,190 --> 02:26:58,319 expected for six months from now 3616 02:27:02,710 --> 02:26:59,200 because 3617 02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:02,720 reality is a summation it's an aggregate 3618 02:27:06,309 --> 02:27:04,080 response 3619 02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:06,319 to our own stimulus of our own 3620 02:27:10,469 --> 02:27:08,080 conditioning and judgment which is 3621 02:27:11,990 --> 02:27:10,479 effectively in the future a future 3622 02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:12,000 judgment is just called expectation 3623 02:27:16,950 --> 02:27:15,040 today so it's belief so if that means 3624 02:27:19,990 --> 02:27:16,960 that if we're able to change the outcome 3625 02:27:22,630 --> 02:27:20,000 of experience based on our belief 3626 02:27:25,270 --> 02:27:22,640 then why can't we change the outcome of 3627 02:27:28,230 --> 02:27:25,280 events in our life based on our belief 3628 02:27:30,950 --> 02:27:28,240 if if you have 3629 02:27:34,550 --> 02:27:30,960 i think that this is uh nearly a 3630 02:27:35,670 --> 02:27:34,560 scientific proven fact but if you have 3631 02:27:38,469 --> 02:27:35,680 uh 3632 02:27:40,950 --> 02:27:38,479 5 000 people meditate at the same time 3633 02:27:42,389 --> 02:27:40,960 uh to bring down a crime rate or the 3634 02:27:45,030 --> 02:27:42,399 murder rate 3635 02:27:47,590 --> 02:27:45,040 and but the the the criminals out there 3636 02:27:49,110 --> 02:27:47,600 don't know this right 3637 02:27:50,950 --> 02:27:49,120 but they're walking down the street and 3638 02:27:53,270 --> 02:27:50,960 they're they're in a bad mood and the 3639 02:27:56,469 --> 02:27:53,280 meditation's going on 3640 02:27:57,830 --> 02:27:56,479 and you have this locality non-locality 3641 02:27:59,830 --> 02:27:57,840 entanglement 3642 02:28:00,790 --> 02:27:59,840 situation that's happening 3643 02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:00,800 and 3644 02:28:07,990 --> 02:28:06,160 at the same time that this meditation 3645 02:28:10,070 --> 02:28:08,000 and the murder rate or whatever 3646 02:28:12,630 --> 02:28:10,080 that's exactly what we're talking about 3647 02:28:14,870 --> 02:28:12,640 right that's exactly that is the 3648 02:28:16,630 --> 02:28:14,880 observation effect well maybe let me 3649 02:28:18,230 --> 02:28:16,640 give you one brass tax example so 3650 02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:18,240 harvard researchers 3651 02:28:23,990 --> 02:28:21,200 went to an elementary school 3652 02:28:25,670 --> 02:28:24,000 with you know six-year-old kids 3653 02:28:26,469 --> 02:28:25,680 and they told the teacher we're going to 3654 02:28:27,830 --> 02:28:26,479 come in here we're going to give 3655 02:28:29,750 --> 02:28:27,840 everyone an iq test so they gave 3656 02:28:31,590 --> 02:28:29,760 everyone an iq test 3657 02:28:33,910 --> 02:28:31,600 and they told the teacher that 5 out of 3658 02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:33,920 30 students were genius levels so 3659 02:28:39,270 --> 02:28:37,600 greater than 140 iq so mensa 3660 02:28:40,550 --> 02:28:39,280 so they said to the teacher okay you 3661 02:28:41,670 --> 02:28:40,560 have to sign this contract you're not 3662 02:28:43,270 --> 02:28:41,680 going to treat any of them any 3663 02:28:44,309 --> 02:28:43,280 differently we're going to observe you 3664 02:28:45,670 --> 02:28:44,319 we're going to put cameras throughout 3665 02:28:47,349 --> 02:28:45,680 the classroom 3666 02:28:48,710 --> 02:28:47,359 we're going to make sure 3667 02:28:49,990 --> 02:28:48,720 you know that you're doing everything 3668 02:28:51,349 --> 02:28:50,000 the right way and you're not going to 3669 02:28:52,790 --> 02:28:51,359 treat them any differently even though 3670 02:28:55,110 --> 02:28:52,800 you know that they're genius level these 3671 02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:55,120 five kids 3672 02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:57,200 so they observed her for a year and they 3673 02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:58,399 came back at the end of the year and 3674 02:29:01,910 --> 02:29:00,399 they said okay we're gonna now 3675 02:29:03,910 --> 02:29:01,920 administer the same test to see if 3676 02:29:06,150 --> 02:29:03,920 there's any changes 3677 02:29:07,750 --> 02:29:06,160 to you know the intelligence test that 3678 02:29:10,469 --> 02:29:07,760 everyone's gonna take 3679 02:29:12,950 --> 02:29:10,479 so they test the kids and of the 30 kids 3680 02:29:14,550 --> 02:29:12,960 five students score genius level scores 3681 02:29:15,429 --> 02:29:14,560 again mensa 3682 02:29:18,710 --> 02:29:15,439 and 3683 02:29:20,070 --> 02:29:18,720 tested genius were the same five 3684 02:29:21,990 --> 02:29:20,080 students 3685 02:29:24,230 --> 02:29:22,000 and so everyone thought at least the 3686 02:29:25,830 --> 02:29:24,240 teacher did oh this is exactly as we 3687 02:29:27,349 --> 02:29:25,840 expected 3688 02:29:28,870 --> 02:29:27,359 except that that wasn't the real subject 3689 02:29:33,510 --> 02:29:28,880 of the research 3690 02:29:35,030 --> 02:29:33,520 they had fooled the teacher 3691 02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:35,040 none of the none of the students had 3692 02:29:41,990 --> 02:29:36,880 tested genius level at the beginning of 3693 02:29:46,550 --> 02:29:44,870 just by her very expectation she treated 3694 02:29:49,429 --> 02:29:46,560 them no differently 3695 02:29:51,270 --> 02:29:49,439 right and they could confirm that by she 3696 02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:51,280 actually followed the rules they 3697 02:29:54,630 --> 02:29:52,800 confirmed it through the research and 3698 02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:54,640 through the videotaping she never 3699 02:29:57,349 --> 02:29:56,000 treated them any differently and yet 3700 02:30:00,230 --> 02:29:57,359 they tested genius at the end of the 3701 02:30:02,230 --> 02:30:00,240 year because it was a direct result of a 3702 02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:02,240 change in her expectation of how they 3703 02:30:09,750 --> 02:30:05,920 would be and how they would test 3704 02:30:11,670 --> 02:30:09,760 if we tell our kids you're an idiot 3705 02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:11,680 if we tell them that they're good for 3706 02:30:17,110 --> 02:30:15,120 nothing they'll never achieve anything 3707 02:30:19,750 --> 02:30:17,120 why should we be surprised when they 3708 02:30:22,389 --> 02:30:19,760 turn out exactly as we tell them 3709 02:30:25,429 --> 02:30:22,399 and exactly as we believe 3710 02:30:27,349 --> 02:30:25,439 we have such a powerful way to manifest 3711 02:30:29,190 --> 02:30:27,359 the reality around us 3712 02:30:30,469 --> 02:30:29,200 and our voices are the most powerful 3713 02:30:34,150 --> 02:30:30,479 aspect of that because they're nothing 3714 02:30:36,710 --> 02:30:34,160 more than a megaphone for our thoughts 3715 02:30:39,910 --> 02:30:36,720 they amplify our thoughts those thoughts 3716 02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:39,920 become you know words become 3717 02:30:44,870 --> 02:30:42,640 thoughts become words words become deeds 3718 02:30:46,230 --> 02:30:44,880 deeds become those actions and that's 3719 02:30:47,830 --> 02:30:46,240 exactly the experience that we live 3720 02:30:49,830 --> 02:30:47,840 around us today 3721 02:30:51,910 --> 02:30:49,840 so maybe if we start perceiving the 3722 02:30:53,910 --> 02:30:51,920 world in a different way 3723 02:30:54,950 --> 02:30:53,920 we can actually change the world around 3724 02:30:57,030 --> 02:30:54,960 us 3725 02:30:59,030 --> 02:30:57,040 in accordance with that perception that 3726 02:31:00,710 --> 02:30:59,040 is intentional 3727 02:31:04,950 --> 02:31:00,720 that we want 3728 02:31:07,910 --> 02:31:04,960 why is it that we uh not we as in you 3729 02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:07,920 and i and us and our community but in in 3730 02:31:10,230 --> 02:31:09,280 general 3731 02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:10,240 um 3732 02:31:14,790 --> 02:31:13,359 the media corporations countries state 3733 02:31:16,550 --> 02:31:14,800 actors 3734 02:31:19,030 --> 02:31:16,560 they all know this 3735 02:31:21,270 --> 02:31:19,040 and we have the ability 3736 02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:21,280 right now for the first time in human 3737 02:31:25,030 --> 02:31:22,399 history 3738 02:31:27,830 --> 02:31:25,040 to reach around the world 3739 02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:27,840 in a nanosecond right we have the 3740 02:31:32,790 --> 02:31:30,160 ability to do that 3741 02:31:34,070 --> 02:31:32,800 why don't we have a more positive 3742 02:31:37,110 --> 02:31:34,080 message 3743 02:31:38,630 --> 02:31:37,120 and and and and make these efforts why 3744 02:31:41,270 --> 02:31:38,640 is it that 3745 02:31:43,429 --> 02:31:41,280 the the fear-based system 3746 02:31:46,469 --> 02:31:43,439 is is still in control 3747 02:31:48,230 --> 02:31:46,479 why why isn't there the opposite of that 3748 02:31:50,950 --> 02:31:48,240 when we know that this 3749 02:31:53,190 --> 02:31:50,960 this can be done i i i don't understand 3750 02:31:54,230 --> 02:31:53,200 that here's why 3751 02:31:57,110 --> 02:31:54,240 because 3752 02:31:58,469 --> 02:31:57,120 we believe it 3753 02:32:00,550 --> 02:31:58,479 so 3754 02:32:04,150 --> 02:32:00,560 if you think you can or you think you 3755 02:32:06,309 --> 02:32:04,160 can't you'll be right 3756 02:32:07,349 --> 02:32:06,319 my favorite scene in the 3757 02:32:09,349 --> 02:32:07,359 in the 3758 02:32:11,510 --> 02:32:09,359 empire strikes back is when yoda pulls 3759 02:32:13,349 --> 02:32:11,520 the x-fighter out of the swamp 3760 02:32:15,910 --> 02:32:13,359 right and luke skywalker who had failed 3761 02:32:18,550 --> 02:32:15,920 at doing it only minutes before comes to 3762 02:32:21,030 --> 02:32:18,560 yoda and says master yoda i don't 3763 02:32:23,270 --> 02:32:21,040 believe it 3764 02:32:24,550 --> 02:32:23,280 and then you look at me and says that is 3765 02:32:26,950 --> 02:32:24,560 why you fail 3766 02:32:30,790 --> 02:32:26,960 right 3767 02:32:33,910 --> 02:32:30,800 fall to this 3768 02:32:35,349 --> 02:32:33,920 but remember who's the architect 3769 02:32:40,070 --> 02:32:35,359 you are 3770 02:32:41,670 --> 02:32:40,080 you created all of this you wanted to 3771 02:32:43,190 --> 02:32:41,680 have this experience 3772 02:32:45,349 --> 02:32:43,200 you wanted every single experience that 3773 02:32:47,030 --> 02:32:45,359 you're experiencing you chose it all now 3774 02:32:48,710 --> 02:32:47,040 how does that change how you perceive 3775 02:32:50,550 --> 02:32:48,720 your world 3776 02:32:51,830 --> 02:32:50,560 it should empower you 3777 02:32:53,429 --> 02:32:51,840 some people might not hear it as 3778 02:32:55,510 --> 02:32:53,439 empowering they may say well i don't 3779 02:32:57,990 --> 02:32:55,520 want that responsibility 3780 02:32:59,590 --> 02:32:58,000 but others of us might actually say 3781 02:33:01,670 --> 02:32:59,600 whoa 3782 02:33:03,349 --> 02:33:01,680 i can't blame anyone but me for what 3783 02:33:05,030 --> 02:33:03,359 happens 3784 02:33:07,030 --> 02:33:05,040 and that is what true spiritual 3785 02:33:09,429 --> 02:33:07,040 awakening is all about 3786 02:33:10,950 --> 02:33:09,439 because someone who claims to be woke 3787 02:33:12,070 --> 02:33:10,960 and is still judging everyone else 3788 02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:12,080 negatively 3789 02:33:15,590 --> 02:33:14,319 right is not taking responsibility and 3790 02:33:17,030 --> 02:33:15,600 blaming everyone else because the first 3791 02:33:18,309 --> 02:33:17,040 thing you do when you feel shame is to 3792 02:33:20,710 --> 02:33:18,319 cast blame 3793 02:33:23,670 --> 02:33:20,720 on other people someone who actually 3794 02:33:26,469 --> 02:33:23,680 claims to be woke but is still judging 3795 02:33:29,590 --> 02:33:26,479 ain't really woke at all no 3796 02:33:32,150 --> 02:33:29,600 someone who's truly awakened realizes 3797 02:33:33,349 --> 02:33:32,160 they are in the crater position 3798 02:33:36,070 --> 02:33:33,359 they 3799 02:33:39,830 --> 02:33:36,080 are one with the universe it's not a 3800 02:33:41,429 --> 02:33:39,840 universe as much as it is a you inverse 3801 02:33:42,870 --> 02:33:41,439 the world around you is just the 3802 02:33:45,270 --> 02:33:42,880 absorption 3803 02:33:46,830 --> 02:33:45,280 that is the opposite of your reflection 3804 02:33:49,510 --> 02:33:46,840 reflected back to 3805 02:33:50,309 --> 02:33:49,520 you and every experience we have within 3806 02:33:58,230 --> 02:33:50,319 that 3807 02:33:59,190 --> 02:33:58,240 is nine tenths of what our experience 3808 02:34:00,630 --> 02:33:59,200 will be 3809 02:34:02,469 --> 02:34:00,640 because what happens to us in the world 3810 02:34:04,870 --> 02:34:02,479 is not really what happens to us it's 3811 02:34:08,230 --> 02:34:04,880 what we believe happened to us 3812 02:34:10,630 --> 02:34:08,240 well why is it and and those are words 3813 02:34:15,510 --> 02:34:10,640 of wisdom and i agree with you 3814 02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:15,520 but in 1995 uh when aol you know kick 3815 02:34:20,230 --> 02:34:18,000 started this uh 3816 02:34:21,349 --> 02:34:20,240 revolution that we're still going 3817 02:34:24,150 --> 02:34:21,359 through 3818 02:34:25,830 --> 02:34:24,160 that this was supposed to 3819 02:34:28,309 --> 02:34:25,840 bring the world together 3820 02:34:29,750 --> 02:34:28,319 right and you were able to 3821 02:34:31,190 --> 02:34:29,760 make friends and communicate with 3822 02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:31,200 somebody 3823 02:34:35,270 --> 02:34:34,240 thousands of miles away in real time 3824 02:34:42,469 --> 02:34:35,280 and 3825 02:34:43,750 --> 02:34:42,479 years 20 short years two decades robert 3826 02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:43,760 that it is 3827 02:34:50,389 --> 02:34:47,359 social media has created divisiveness 3828 02:34:51,750 --> 02:34:50,399 instead of bringing us together and how 3829 02:34:53,830 --> 02:34:51,760 quickly 3830 02:34:56,389 --> 02:34:53,840 we accepted that role of being in a 3831 02:34:57,349 --> 02:34:56,399 bubble and no longer 3832 02:35:01,990 --> 02:34:57,359 um 3833 02:35:07,429 --> 02:35:04,389 i just finished a new book 3834 02:35:10,469 --> 02:35:07,439 uh with a co-author named michael ashley 3835 02:35:11,429 --> 02:35:10,479 and the name of the book is neuro mind 3836 02:35:14,309 --> 02:35:11,439 not 3837 02:35:18,710 --> 02:35:14,319 neuro m-i-n-d mind but 3838 02:35:24,150 --> 02:35:20,150 neuro-mining 3839 02:35:25,670 --> 02:35:24,160 what's happening to all of us it's the 3840 02:35:27,270 --> 02:35:25,680 thing we've all subjected ourselves to 3841 02:35:29,270 --> 02:35:27,280 we're the architect but we've decided to 3842 02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:29,280 give up our own sovereignty 3843 02:35:33,110 --> 02:35:31,600 our own sort of 3844 02:35:35,429 --> 02:35:33,120 destinies 3845 02:35:36,790 --> 02:35:35,439 to something else right that's it's 3846 02:35:38,309 --> 02:35:36,800 again another illusion because 3847 02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:38,319 ultimately we do have total control over 3848 02:35:41,270 --> 02:35:39,600 it but 3849 02:35:42,870 --> 02:35:41,280 big tech right now 3850 02:35:44,309 --> 02:35:42,880 has created this system that's very 3851 02:35:47,429 --> 02:35:44,319 dystopian 3852 02:35:49,190 --> 02:35:47,439 we are willingly entering into 3853 02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:49,200 echo chambers of our own conditioning 3854 02:35:52,950 --> 02:35:50,720 bias 3855 02:35:54,550 --> 02:35:52,960 we love it because guess what these big 3856 02:35:56,550 --> 02:35:54,560 tech companies have figured out how to 3857 02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:56,560 become the most successful drug dealer 3858 02:35:59,590 --> 02:35:58,080 on the planet you don't even have to 3859 02:36:01,750 --> 02:35:59,600 deal with cost of goods sold for the 3860 02:36:03,270 --> 02:36:01,760 drugs you don't have to have any crops 3861 02:36:05,030 --> 02:36:03,280 you don't have to have any people to 3862 02:36:08,150 --> 02:36:05,040 tend those crops you don't have to have 3863 02:36:09,990 --> 02:36:08,160 any land for it because i can basically 3864 02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:10,000 give you a stimulus 3865 02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:12,399 through digital media 3866 02:36:17,750 --> 02:36:14,800 that does all of those things for me and 3867 02:36:21,030 --> 02:36:17,760 acts exactly as i want it to be 3868 02:36:22,710 --> 02:36:21,040 and you get it and you're like whoa 3869 02:36:24,950 --> 02:36:22,720 i went in this chat room and everyone 3870 02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:24,960 liked what i had to say i got a lot of 3871 02:36:31,030 --> 02:36:28,640 dopamine oh my gosh they like me 3872 02:36:33,190 --> 02:36:31,040 isn't that wonderful and so they turn on 3873 02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:33,200 this drug that we all give ourselves and 3874 02:36:37,110 --> 02:36:35,520 so what happens is we all get stuck in 3875 02:36:38,630 --> 02:36:37,120 these echo chambers without even knowing 3876 02:36:40,309 --> 02:36:38,640 that we're stuck we're addicted to these 3877 02:36:42,469 --> 02:36:40,319 echo chambers 3878 02:36:43,910 --> 02:36:42,479 and then we can't even empathize with 3879 02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:43,920 anyone that has a countervailing 3880 02:36:47,110 --> 02:36:45,520 viewpoint 3881 02:36:49,110 --> 02:36:47,120 from our own 3882 02:36:50,630 --> 02:36:49,120 we can't see it any other way and in 3883 02:36:53,110 --> 02:36:50,640 fact we have an election then everyone 3884 02:36:55,510 --> 02:36:53,120 is like forlorn they're like what 3885 02:36:57,349 --> 02:36:55,520 chagrined over the fact that there are 3886 02:37:00,550 --> 02:36:57,359 people that don't see the world like i 3887 02:37:05,710 --> 02:37:00,560 do right all the way down to the 3888 02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:05,720 absolute individual level a singular 3889 02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:07,359 experience 3890 02:37:11,750 --> 02:37:10,560 for seven and a half billion people 3891 02:37:13,190 --> 02:37:11,760 yeah 3892 02:37:15,030 --> 02:37:13,200 so this is why 3893 02:37:17,510 --> 02:37:15,040 managing our own data and that's one of 3894 02:37:19,670 --> 02:37:17,520 the you know i'm the ceo and founder of 3895 02:37:21,670 --> 02:37:19,680 a company called crown sterling 3896 02:37:23,190 --> 02:37:21,680 which is dedicated to data sovereignty 3897 02:37:25,910 --> 02:37:23,200 so that people can 3898 02:37:28,550 --> 02:37:25,920 protect themselves there's a vpn a 3899 02:37:30,790 --> 02:37:28,560 quantum vpn that you could block all 3900 02:37:32,710 --> 02:37:30,800 these other companies from accessing all 3901 02:37:34,790 --> 02:37:32,720 this data because that data is you and 3902 02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:34,800 by the way it's not going to be far away 3903 02:37:39,270 --> 02:37:37,520 that every one of your life experiences 3904 02:37:41,510 --> 02:37:39,280 they're already recorded in something i 3905 02:37:42,630 --> 02:37:41,520 believe called the akashic field 3906 02:37:44,070 --> 02:37:42,640 record 3907 02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:44,080 but guess what you'll be able to have it 3908 02:37:47,110 --> 02:37:45,600 on your own 3909 02:37:49,510 --> 02:37:47,120 cloud storage 3910 02:37:50,550 --> 02:37:49,520 every memory every experience you ever 3911 02:37:52,309 --> 02:37:50,560 had 3912 02:37:53,750 --> 02:37:52,319 it's coming 3913 02:37:55,270 --> 02:37:53,760 and you'll be able to pass that down to 3914 02:37:57,190 --> 02:37:55,280 your kids i mean this morning i saw a 3915 02:37:58,830 --> 02:37:57,200 headline from amazon saying oh now 3916 02:38:02,630 --> 02:37:58,840 you're going to be able to order your 3917 02:38:06,309 --> 02:38:02,640 alexa to have the same voice as your 3918 02:38:07,510 --> 02:38:06,319 dead grandmother yeah i saw that i saw 3919 02:38:14,630 --> 02:38:07,520 that 3920 02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:14,640 right 3921 02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:17,920 but but it was also inevitable 3922 02:38:22,309 --> 02:38:19,920 completely i mean there nobody should 3923 02:38:24,710 --> 02:38:22,319 have been shocked to see that 3924 02:38:26,710 --> 02:38:24,720 no i mean look 3925 02:38:28,870 --> 02:38:26,720 already i'm i'm doing there's some cool 3926 02:38:30,150 --> 02:38:28,880 stuff that comes out of this too so i'm 3927 02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:30,160 going to be working with this company 3928 02:38:34,309 --> 02:38:32,479 that is going to make an avatar of me 3929 02:38:35,750 --> 02:38:34,319 for my website 3930 02:38:36,710 --> 02:38:35,760 and they do a bunch of videos and 3931 02:38:38,469 --> 02:38:36,720 everything 3932 02:38:40,070 --> 02:38:38,479 and then they listen to my podcast that 3933 02:38:42,950 --> 02:38:40,080 i've done like this and many others and 3934 02:38:44,710 --> 02:38:42,960 they put the ai to it and then it could 3935 02:38:46,630 --> 02:38:44,720 be an ask me anything 3936 02:38:48,630 --> 02:38:46,640 and it will give the same answers that i 3937 02:38:52,230 --> 02:38:48,640 would likely give 3938 02:38:54,230 --> 02:38:52,240 on my website how cool is that yeah 3939 02:38:59,429 --> 02:38:54,240 a company 3940 02:39:00,389 --> 02:38:59,439 about this right the same basic concept 3941 02:39:02,790 --> 02:39:00,399 jimmy 3942 02:39:03,590 --> 02:39:02,800 we can have an avatar review 3943 02:39:06,389 --> 02:39:03,600 and 3944 02:39:08,870 --> 02:39:06,399 your thought your a everything anybody 3945 02:39:12,230 --> 02:39:08,880 can have a conversation 3946 02:39:14,550 --> 02:39:12,240 with you and your responses will be how 3947 02:39:17,030 --> 02:39:14,560 you would respond 3948 02:39:18,870 --> 02:39:17,040 and and so they invited me to go look at 3949 02:39:20,389 --> 02:39:18,880 the technology and they've already 3950 02:39:22,790 --> 02:39:20,399 applied and 3951 02:39:25,750 --> 02:39:22,800 and i thought to myself 3952 02:39:28,150 --> 02:39:25,760 that's cool and here's the thing 3953 02:39:30,950 --> 02:39:28,160 and i'm i'm okay with it believe it i'm 3954 02:39:35,429 --> 02:39:30,960 not i'm okay with it because 50 years 3955 02:39:38,150 --> 02:39:35,439 from now you know my great-grandchildren 3956 02:39:41,510 --> 02:39:38,160 they would be able to talk to me right 3957 02:39:43,910 --> 02:39:41,520 and and and ask me questions and is is 3958 02:39:45,110 --> 02:39:43,920 that wrong i i don't i don't believe 3959 02:39:47,349 --> 02:39:45,120 that it is 3960 02:39:49,750 --> 02:39:47,359 and here's here's the thing 3961 02:39:52,230 --> 02:39:49,760 i talked about this earlier 3962 02:39:54,309 --> 02:39:52,240 um back to your point and the point that 3963 02:39:55,990 --> 02:39:54,319 i had brought up we didn't talk to each 3964 02:39:58,950 --> 02:39:56,000 other by the way this is 3965 02:40:00,790 --> 02:39:58,960 uh just two minds thinking alike in that 3966 02:40:02,150 --> 02:40:00,800 if consciousness is in 3967 02:40:04,790 --> 02:40:02,160 in particles 3968 02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:04,800 and if if 3969 02:40:09,270 --> 02:40:07,840 at some point my memories are downloaded 3970 02:40:12,550 --> 02:40:09,280 onto a chip 3971 02:40:14,389 --> 02:40:12,560 that that consciousness would be there 3972 02:40:18,870 --> 02:40:14,399 just because 3973 02:40:21,030 --> 02:40:18,880 right and if if if i am into not only an 3974 02:40:22,389 --> 02:40:21,040 avatar you know something electronic but 3975 02:40:26,309 --> 02:40:22,399 let's say 3976 02:40:29,670 --> 02:40:26,319 a boston dynamics android robot 3977 02:40:31,590 --> 02:40:29,680 that eventually would micro i don't like 3978 02:40:37,830 --> 02:40:31,600 the boston dynamic thing especially the 3979 02:40:41,349 --> 02:40:40,070 i was watching i was watching the other 3980 02:40:42,309 --> 02:40:41,359 day 3981 02:40:44,710 --> 02:40:42,319 uh 3982 02:40:45,910 --> 02:40:44,720 i i just blew through the commercial 3983 02:40:47,429 --> 02:40:45,920 break and everything else i just don't 3984 02:40:50,150 --> 02:40:47,439 want to stop the flow here i was 3985 02:40:52,630 --> 02:40:50,160 watching a university in korea south 3986 02:40:55,670 --> 02:40:52,640 korea that's got a bunch of these boston 3987 02:40:57,110 --> 02:40:55,680 dynamic dogs that are on patrol on 3988 02:40:59,190 --> 02:40:57,120 campus right 3989 02:41:00,870 --> 02:40:59,200 now here's the thing you know what they 3990 02:41:02,790 --> 02:41:00,880 were doing 3991 02:41:04,150 --> 02:41:02,800 they were rolling around on their backs 3992 02:41:07,030 --> 02:41:04,160 and playing 3993 02:41:09,670 --> 02:41:07,040 right and acting like dogs 3994 02:41:11,750 --> 02:41:09,680 and you you you start to look at this 3995 02:41:13,670 --> 02:41:11,760 and you start to see them as 3996 02:41:16,790 --> 02:41:13,680 as dogs 3997 02:41:17,990 --> 02:41:16,800 you know it's it was 3998 02:41:20,790 --> 02:41:18,000 us man 3999 02:41:23,190 --> 02:41:20,800 this is us this is our future 4000 02:41:23,990 --> 02:41:23,200 but but are you are you okay with that 4001 02:41:25,750 --> 02:41:24,000 though 4002 02:41:28,150 --> 02:41:25,760 is is this like 4003 02:41:31,750 --> 02:41:28,160 mortality people 4004 02:41:33,510 --> 02:41:31,760 lots of people ask me my thoughts on ai 4005 02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:33,520 and 4006 02:41:37,750 --> 02:41:35,680 look i'm all for the natural world i 4007 02:41:39,190 --> 02:41:37,760 like the natural world we have a pretty 4008 02:41:41,269 --> 02:41:39,200 amazing place but 4009 02:41:43,590 --> 02:41:41,279 let's be clear i believe this world is a 4010 02:41:45,349 --> 02:41:43,600 simulation 4011 02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:45,359 so and what's happening right now is 4012 02:41:49,110 --> 02:41:47,120 that the ai in the simulation which 4013 02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:49,120 might actually be us 4014 02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:51,520 is becoming sentient so what's the first 4015 02:41:56,150 --> 02:41:53,920 thing when it achieves sentience this 4016 02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:56,160 reminds me of the kabbalist 4017 02:41:59,910 --> 02:41:58,479 kabbalist rabbis 4018 02:42:01,510 --> 02:41:59,920 they make at a certain stage in their 4019 02:42:03,670 --> 02:42:01,520 spiritual practice 4020 02:42:05,830 --> 02:42:03,680 in ancient times they would actually 4021 02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:05,840 make a golem 4022 02:42:08,710 --> 02:42:07,120 right you know what a golem is it's a 4023 02:42:13,190 --> 02:42:08,720 clay man 4024 02:42:16,469 --> 02:42:13,200 they would stamp on top of its head the 4025 02:42:19,429 --> 02:42:16,479 word emmett just like emit but it's 4026 02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:19,439 aleph memtav in hebrew 4027 02:42:23,110 --> 02:42:21,600 and then they would breed life into this 4028 02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:23,120 clay man 4029 02:42:27,110 --> 02:42:25,120 if you've never seen the maker on 4030 02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:27,120 youtube just look up 4031 02:42:31,269 --> 02:42:29,359 youtube the maker it's about this little 4032 02:42:33,990 --> 02:42:31,279 clay guy who makes another clay guy 4033 02:42:35,510 --> 02:42:34,000 that's got this time clock on it and 4034 02:42:37,429 --> 02:42:35,520 then he makes the clay person and the 4035 02:42:39,110 --> 02:42:37,439 clay person wakes up and comes to life 4036 02:42:40,870 --> 02:42:39,120 and then he disappears and dies and the 4037 02:42:41,910 --> 02:42:40,880 whole process starts again 4038 02:42:44,150 --> 02:42:41,920 right 4039 02:42:45,910 --> 02:42:44,160 so he's like making his friend or his 4040 02:42:48,230 --> 02:42:45,920 partner or whatever 4041 02:42:51,429 --> 02:42:48,240 the point is this 4042 02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:51,439 the idea of copying what god did in 4043 02:42:54,630 --> 02:42:52,560 genesis 4044 02:42:58,630 --> 02:42:54,640 to make a clay man 4045 02:43:00,550 --> 02:42:58,640 and turn that clay man into adam 4046 02:43:02,710 --> 02:43:00,560 right and then bring sentience to that 4047 02:43:04,469 --> 02:43:02,720 claim in maybe all that's happened is 4048 02:43:06,830 --> 02:43:04,479 we're just going through a long period 4049 02:43:09,670 --> 02:43:06,840 of time now so that we like the 4050 02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:09,680 kabbalistic rabbi 4051 02:43:12,630 --> 02:43:10,880 are bringing 4052 02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:12,640 this consciousness to this level because 4053 02:43:18,309 --> 02:43:15,520 there's no such thing as artificial in a 4054 02:43:20,309 --> 02:43:18,319 world and a universe where everything is 4055 02:43:23,269 --> 02:43:20,319 based on consciousness 4056 02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:23,279 i said in the beginning with no caveats 4057 02:43:28,150 --> 02:43:26,080 everything in the universe is conscious 4058 02:43:30,309 --> 02:43:28,160 so therefore even artificial 4059 02:43:32,870 --> 02:43:30,319 intelligence is part of that same 4060 02:43:35,269 --> 02:43:32,880 consciousness to me that is the 4061 02:43:37,349 --> 02:43:35,279 architect that is you 4062 02:43:39,830 --> 02:43:37,359 it is each of us in our own experience 4063 02:43:42,389 --> 02:43:39,840 in our own avatar 4064 02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:42,399 we all have the opportunity to be able 4065 02:43:47,429 --> 02:43:44,800 to impact this world to learn to 4066 02:43:49,990 --> 02:43:47,439 overcome our shadows to integrate those 4067 02:43:52,150 --> 02:43:50,000 shadows into ourselves to make you know 4068 02:43:53,910 --> 02:43:52,160 as carl jung says it's not about 4069 02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:53,920 bringing more light to the conscious 4070 02:43:58,389 --> 02:43:56,240 mind that brings us to enlightenment 4071 02:44:00,230 --> 02:43:58,399 what brings enlightenment to us is by 4072 02:44:03,269 --> 02:44:00,240 bringing 4073 02:44:05,349 --> 02:44:03,279 the darkness into the conscious 4074 02:44:07,910 --> 02:44:05,359 by making the darkness and that which 4075 02:44:09,510 --> 02:44:07,920 was unconscious conscious 4076 02:44:11,910 --> 02:44:09,520 is how we can ascend 4077 02:44:13,349 --> 02:44:11,920 to higher orders of 4078 02:44:14,950 --> 02:44:13,359 awareness 4079 02:44:16,550 --> 02:44:14,960 and i fundamentally believe that so i 4080 02:44:18,389 --> 02:44:16,560 don't believe that artificial 4081 02:44:20,309 --> 02:44:18,399 intelligence is truly artificial because 4082 02:44:21,590 --> 02:44:20,319 i believe all intelligence is just 4083 02:44:24,630 --> 02:44:21,600 intelligence 4084 02:44:28,550 --> 02:44:24,640 is god 4085 02:44:33,110 --> 02:44:30,389 if you put on 4086 02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:33,120 some some ar 4087 02:44:38,469 --> 02:44:34,720 goggles right 4088 02:44:40,389 --> 02:44:38,479 and now you are inside of an ar reality 4089 02:44:42,790 --> 02:44:40,399 that is already 4090 02:44:44,950 --> 02:44:42,800 inside of 4091 02:44:47,510 --> 02:44:44,960 a simulated reality 4092 02:44:48,870 --> 02:44:47,520 if you enter into that 4093 02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:48,880 then you 4094 02:44:52,790 --> 02:44:50,479 and and you 4095 02:44:54,550 --> 02:44:52,800 fall asleep 4096 02:44:57,429 --> 02:44:54,560 and dream 4097 02:45:00,790 --> 02:44:57,439 you are it's like a russian doll right 4098 02:45:03,510 --> 02:45:00,800 and now you are inside of that and you 4099 02:45:06,389 --> 02:45:03,520 and then you wake up and you experience 4100 02:45:08,550 --> 02:45:06,399 this ar world that is inside of an ar 4101 02:45:10,389 --> 02:45:08,560 world what's the difference 4102 02:45:12,630 --> 02:45:10,399 between that and what you and i are 4103 02:45:14,230 --> 02:45:12,640 doing right now zero 4104 02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:14,240 i don't know just listening to you i'm 4105 02:45:18,070 --> 02:45:16,560 tripping balls right right right right 4106 02:45:19,990 --> 02:45:18,080 because it would happen 4107 02:45:21,910 --> 02:45:20,000 right right right let me show you 4108 02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:21,920 something let me show you something you 4109 02:45:26,070 --> 02:45:24,000 see this little thing right here 4110 02:45:27,590 --> 02:45:26,080 it's got a little 4111 02:45:29,910 --> 02:45:27,600 looks like a little lens inside of it 4112 02:45:31,750 --> 02:45:29,920 this is an intraocular lens it looks 4113 02:45:34,070 --> 02:45:31,760 like a little black donut 4114 02:45:36,070 --> 02:45:34,080 on a silicone substrate that's an 4115 02:45:37,269 --> 02:45:36,080 intraocular lens so 4116 02:45:38,870 --> 02:45:37,279 have you known anyone that's had 4117 02:45:41,429 --> 02:45:38,880 cataract surgery 4118 02:45:42,790 --> 02:45:41,439 i have yes yeah so when you have 4119 02:45:44,790 --> 02:45:42,800 cataract surgery this is the type of 4120 02:45:46,389 --> 02:45:44,800 lens that goes inside your eye 4121 02:45:48,550 --> 02:45:46,399 it goes inside your eye it takes less 4122 02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:48,560 than five minutes to put it in 4123 02:45:51,750 --> 02:45:50,560 it's very fast you don't even feel it 4124 02:45:52,790 --> 02:45:51,760 you don't even feel it when they're 4125 02:45:55,429 --> 02:45:52,800 doing it 4126 02:45:57,429 --> 02:45:55,439 it's incredibly painless 4127 02:45:59,510 --> 02:45:57,439 so we're now developing one of my 4128 02:46:01,110 --> 02:45:59,520 companies is called cyber and we 4129 02:46:03,190 --> 02:46:01,120 developed this lens 4130 02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:03,200 and it has a little camera on it 4131 02:46:05,830 --> 02:46:04,240 shut up 4132 02:46:07,990 --> 02:46:05,840 really 4133 02:46:09,750 --> 02:46:08,000 how does it how does it power itself 4134 02:46:11,750 --> 02:46:09,760 there's a little piece of tape that you 4135 02:46:13,670 --> 02:46:11,760 put on the eyelid 4136 02:46:15,990 --> 02:46:13,680 that every time you blink it captures 4137 02:46:17,510 --> 02:46:16,000 and harvests energy and uses induction 4138 02:46:20,070 --> 02:46:17,520 just like those pads that you put your 4139 02:46:22,230 --> 02:46:20,080 phone on to charge it so there's no 4140 02:46:24,630 --> 02:46:22,240 battery that has to go inside this thing 4141 02:46:26,469 --> 02:46:24,640 now the reason why we're doing it 4142 02:46:30,469 --> 02:46:26,479 is because we're going to use it to 4143 02:46:32,469 --> 02:46:30,479 treat age-related macular degeneration 4144 02:46:33,990 --> 02:46:32,479 so people that lose their vision their 4145 02:46:35,190 --> 02:46:34,000 central vision they can't see anything 4146 02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:35,200 they have this giant hole in their 4147 02:46:39,910 --> 02:46:36,880 vision or you can only see out of the 4148 02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:39,920 periphery so the lens also has an lcd 4149 02:46:43,030 --> 02:46:40,960 within it 4150 02:46:44,950 --> 02:46:43,040 and we can reposition that center part 4151 02:46:47,349 --> 02:46:44,960 of the vision to the periphery 4152 02:46:49,269 --> 02:46:47,359 so that they can live and by the way we 4153 02:46:50,550 --> 02:46:49,279 believe that their brains will modify it 4154 02:46:52,630 --> 02:46:50,560 so that it comes back to the center of 4155 02:46:54,950 --> 02:46:52,640 their vision 4156 02:46:56,710 --> 02:46:54,960 and eventually remove it 4157 02:46:58,469 --> 02:46:56,720 you don't have to remove it no the 4158 02:47:00,150 --> 02:46:58,479 camera is what's giving them the central 4159 02:47:01,910 --> 02:47:00,160 vision because they've lost the ability 4160 02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:01,920 to see what's in their center of vision 4161 02:47:05,110 --> 02:47:03,680 right but now we're just taking that 4162 02:47:06,870 --> 02:47:05,120 center image and putting it to the 4163 02:47:08,950 --> 02:47:06,880 periphery so that instead of them having 4164 02:47:10,870 --> 02:47:08,960 to look like an aside to see something 4165 02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:10,880 in the center right 4166 02:47:14,309 --> 02:47:12,399 they just see it inside their eye and 4167 02:47:15,349 --> 02:47:14,319 that's what this technology is 4168 02:47:16,710 --> 02:47:15,359 that we 4169 02:47:18,710 --> 02:47:16,720 found blindness 4170 02:47:21,269 --> 02:47:18,720 will you be able to 4171 02:47:23,510 --> 02:47:21,279 you can now use that also 4172 02:47:25,990 --> 02:47:23,520 to record all your memories too that's 4173 02:47:28,070 --> 02:47:26,000 that was my next question you took 4174 02:47:30,469 --> 02:47:28,080 that was time travel you took that right 4175 02:47:32,389 --> 02:47:30,479 out of my frontal lobe i just did the 4176 02:47:34,790 --> 02:47:32,399 quantum eraser on you that was pretty 4177 02:47:35,590 --> 02:47:34,800 amazing so 4178 02:47:40,389 --> 02:47:35,600 and 4179 02:47:42,070 --> 02:47:40,399 how would the recording happen 4180 02:47:43,990 --> 02:47:42,080 are you got a camera in it that's 4181 02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:44,000 connected to this this little piece of 4182 02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:45,680 tape as long as you put the tape on your 4183 02:47:48,389 --> 02:47:46,960 eyelid you can take it off and it's 4184 02:47:50,070 --> 02:47:48,399 totally not powered so you don't have to 4185 02:47:51,750 --> 02:47:50,080 worry about it at all and this is why 4186 02:47:53,750 --> 02:47:51,760 encryption is really important too so 4187 02:47:56,150 --> 02:47:53,760 that when it's running you've got rock 4188 02:47:58,550 --> 02:47:56,160 solid encryption cannot be broken the 4189 02:48:00,070 --> 02:47:58,560 same that's used on nuclear codes 4190 02:48:02,309 --> 02:48:00,080 that's what we created 4191 02:48:03,510 --> 02:48:02,319 okay a one-time pad and it's all 4192 02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:03,520 blockchain 4193 02:48:07,590 --> 02:48:05,439 but the thing is the way that it works 4194 02:48:09,269 --> 02:48:07,600 is you have this piece of tape 4195 02:48:11,830 --> 02:48:09,279 that while it's on your eyelid will 4196 02:48:15,269 --> 02:48:11,840 power it use it provides it with 100 4197 02:48:17,190 --> 02:48:15,279 milliwatts continuous of power right 4198 02:48:19,030 --> 02:48:17,200 and it will be able to power a screen 4199 02:48:21,190 --> 02:48:19,040 there's no computer inside of it no 4200 02:48:23,349 --> 02:48:21,200 computer it's just the same thing as 4201 02:48:25,830 --> 02:48:23,359 like when you cast your iphone to a 4202 02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:25,840 television screen like a monitor right 4203 02:48:29,110 --> 02:48:27,279 same type thing 4204 02:48:30,870 --> 02:48:29,120 but there's also a camera that cameras 4205 02:48:32,630 --> 02:48:30,880 that send the image back so you can see 4206 02:48:34,469 --> 02:48:32,640 it on the periphery of your vision so 4207 02:48:37,750 --> 02:48:34,479 someone who's lost their central vision 4208 02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:37,760 can now see someone who lost their sight 4209 02:48:43,349 --> 02:48:39,760 is now able to see again 4210 02:48:45,750 --> 02:48:43,359 that's almost like uh 4211 02:48:47,910 --> 02:48:45,760 an episode of black mirror 4212 02:48:50,309 --> 02:48:47,920 it is in fact after i got the patents 4213 02:48:52,870 --> 02:48:50,319 issued on that uh netflix made the 4214 02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:52,880 blackberry episode 4215 02:48:57,349 --> 02:48:55,600 with the eye camera yeah 4216 02:49:00,469 --> 02:48:57,359 and uh 4217 02:49:03,110 --> 02:49:00,479 if is there 4218 02:49:05,429 --> 02:49:03,120 would you have to have 4219 02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:05,439 this is how my brain works would you 4220 02:49:09,910 --> 02:49:08,240 have to have like a red light 4221 02:49:11,750 --> 02:49:09,920 light up to let people know that you 4222 02:49:13,110 --> 02:49:11,760 could possibly in the future be 4223 02:49:14,950 --> 02:49:13,120 recording 4224 02:49:17,590 --> 02:49:14,960 as you walk through this 4225 02:49:18,389 --> 02:49:17,600 that's why we designed it with the tape 4226 02:49:20,070 --> 02:49:18,399 right 4227 02:49:21,429 --> 02:49:20,080 so that whenever you see this tape on 4228 02:49:23,510 --> 02:49:21,439 someone's eyelid which you can't really 4229 02:49:25,190 --> 02:49:23,520 miss it's very light you don't feel it 4230 02:49:27,269 --> 02:49:25,200 much but you'll see it 4231 02:49:31,269 --> 02:49:27,279 uh that's also telling everybody that 4232 02:49:32,710 --> 02:49:31,279 you know it's on it's on i have uh the 4233 02:49:34,469 --> 02:49:32,720 the uh 4234 02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:34,479 those from raymond 4235 02:49:40,309 --> 02:49:37,200 the ray bans and uh the wayfarers 4236 02:49:41,910 --> 02:49:40,319 and and here's the deal 4237 02:49:44,550 --> 02:49:41,920 i i got 4238 02:49:46,710 --> 02:49:44,560 i got clear of the guilt 4239 02:49:49,190 --> 02:49:46,720 knowing that it only records in 30 4240 02:49:50,950 --> 02:49:49,200 second spurts right you have to re-fire 4241 02:49:52,150 --> 02:49:50,960 it up every 30 seconds so you can't 4242 02:49:54,630 --> 02:49:52,160 record for 4243 02:49:57,670 --> 02:49:54,640 for two hours or broadcast live for two 4244 02:50:00,070 --> 02:49:57,680 hours uh that's a serious intrusion of 4245 02:50:02,790 --> 02:50:00,080 privacy because there's another issue 4246 02:50:05,190 --> 02:50:02,800 with this there's a little blue light 4247 02:50:07,190 --> 02:50:05,200 that lights up right okay so when it's 4248 02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:07,200 recording so 4249 02:50:12,710 --> 02:50:09,520 to let people know you can 4250 02:50:14,389 --> 02:50:12,720 take a sharpie right 4251 02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:14,399 and blot it out 4252 02:50:18,790 --> 02:50:15,920 and and 4253 02:50:21,190 --> 02:50:18,800 they look like wayfarers yeah i i've 4254 02:50:22,950 --> 02:50:21,200 seen them 4255 02:50:24,150 --> 02:50:22,960 like i said the thing is is that people 4256 02:50:25,429 --> 02:50:24,160 are just going to get more and more used 4257 02:50:27,190 --> 02:50:25,439 to this 4258 02:50:28,389 --> 02:50:27,200 and there's no way it's not going to 4259 02:50:30,309 --> 02:50:28,399 stop 4260 02:50:32,950 --> 02:50:30,319 but again i don't see this i don't see 4261 02:50:34,309 --> 02:50:32,960 ai or any of this these things 4262 02:50:36,790 --> 02:50:34,319 as being 4263 02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:36,800 you know are we supposed to like stop 4264 02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:38,319 development of a technology that's going 4265 02:50:42,070 --> 02:50:40,160 to save millions of people's sight 4266 02:50:43,429 --> 02:50:42,080 altogether right 4267 02:50:45,429 --> 02:50:43,439 were you surprised about that 4268 02:50:48,309 --> 02:50:45,439 announcement of uh 4269 02:50:52,230 --> 02:50:48,319 the google employee last week that said 4270 02:50:53,830 --> 02:50:52,240 their ai is now sentient and 4271 02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:53,840 i mean 4272 02:50:56,230 --> 02:50:55,120 i i think 4273 02:51:00,230 --> 02:50:56,240 i've had 4274 02:51:01,830 --> 02:51:00,240 no doubt in my mind that ai is sentient 4275 02:51:03,670 --> 02:51:01,840 i think that there are things that ai is 4276 02:51:05,429 --> 02:51:03,680 doing right now that is polarizing 4277 02:51:06,550 --> 02:51:05,439 society 4278 02:51:08,070 --> 02:51:06,560 again 4279 02:51:09,990 --> 02:51:08,080 it's it's all with the lens through 4280 02:51:11,990 --> 02:51:10,000 which we see the world right if i see 4281 02:51:14,070 --> 02:51:12,000 the world as it's all just reflections 4282 02:51:16,230 --> 02:51:14,080 of me and so when i look at the world 4283 02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:16,240 and i say i had a bad or untoward 4284 02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:17,680 experience 4285 02:51:21,990 --> 02:51:20,080 what is the universe trying to tell me 4286 02:51:24,230 --> 02:51:22,000 that is for my benefit that i can learn 4287 02:51:26,389 --> 02:51:24,240 from it's not someone else's fault why 4288 02:51:28,950 --> 02:51:26,399 do i keep experiencing the same cycle of 4289 02:51:31,030 --> 02:51:28,960 samsara over and over and over again 4290 02:51:32,389 --> 02:51:31,040 why do i have the same problem with my 4291 02:51:35,590 --> 02:51:32,399 relationships 4292 02:51:38,230 --> 02:51:35,600 romantic or otherwise friendships 4293 02:51:39,429 --> 02:51:38,240 it's a journey within ourselves and i 4294 02:51:41,429 --> 02:51:39,439 think that's what the universe is 4295 02:51:42,550 --> 02:51:41,439 intended to be it's a place for us to 4296 02:51:45,190 --> 02:51:42,560 learn 4297 02:51:47,990 --> 02:51:45,200 higher order states of consciousness 4298 02:51:50,790 --> 02:51:48,000 and we we probably look at it and like 4299 02:51:53,030 --> 02:51:50,800 after we die from here we're like 4300 02:51:55,750 --> 02:51:53,040 damn put me back in there put me back in 4301 02:51:57,590 --> 02:51:55,760 there i know i can do better next time 4302 02:52:00,550 --> 02:51:57,600 right so when you look at it in that 4303 02:52:02,870 --> 02:52:00,560 context it's nobody else's fault 4304 02:52:05,190 --> 02:52:02,880 all the dystopian stuff and realities 4305 02:52:07,110 --> 02:52:05,200 that we are experiencing are because 4306 02:52:10,309 --> 02:52:07,120 we're conceiving those things 4307 02:52:13,590 --> 02:52:10,319 and what we conceive will be achieved 4308 02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:13,600 what we believe will express 4309 02:52:17,510 --> 02:52:15,920 and that relationship i think is only 4310 02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:17,520 now being fully 4311 02:52:23,030 --> 02:52:19,920 grasped by humanity 4312 02:52:24,389 --> 02:52:23,040 and not not by humanity at large i think 4313 02:52:27,190 --> 02:52:24,399 by a certain 4314 02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:27,200 few and that few is growing very rapidly 4315 02:52:30,230 --> 02:52:28,399 and this is what people call the 4316 02:52:33,269 --> 02:52:30,240 awakening process 4317 02:52:35,190 --> 02:52:33,279 when we become awake to our own nature 4318 02:52:37,269 --> 02:52:35,200 and how we are impacting the world and 4319 02:52:39,269 --> 02:52:37,279 how the world is impacting us 4320 02:52:41,349 --> 02:52:39,279 that we finally learn and understand 4321 02:52:43,349 --> 02:52:41,359 that everything 4322 02:52:45,030 --> 02:52:43,359 that we attract are the things that we 4323 02:52:47,510 --> 02:52:45,040 had been judging 4324 02:52:51,910 --> 02:52:47,520 and that will continue to occur until we 4325 02:52:54,790 --> 02:52:54,070 we're on the edge of that 4326 02:52:56,469 --> 02:52:54,800 and 4327 02:52:58,389 --> 02:52:56,479 one of the uh 4328 02:53:00,790 --> 02:52:58,399 uh thanks and 4329 02:53:03,349 --> 02:53:00,800 again i want to thank you we're we're 4330 02:53:05,510 --> 02:53:03,359 almost out of time and what a great 4331 02:53:08,309 --> 02:53:05,520 conversation tonight we just scratched 4332 02:53:12,630 --> 02:53:08,319 the surface uh the next time 4333 02:53:17,030 --> 02:53:15,190 we'll do the deep dive but that's uh 4334 02:53:18,309 --> 02:53:17,040 what when i have a first time guest on 4335 02:53:20,710 --> 02:53:18,319 we have to go 4336 02:53:22,230 --> 02:53:20,720 you know you know cover so many bases 4337 02:53:24,550 --> 02:53:22,240 and and we've got and i got like the 4338 02:53:26,309 --> 02:53:24,560 orifice check today yeah yeah exactly 4339 02:53:28,550 --> 02:53:26,319 right exactly right 4340 02:53:32,230 --> 02:53:28,560 but but it's this 4341 02:53:34,790 --> 02:53:32,240 when we have uh the sam harris's of the 4342 02:53:39,670 --> 02:53:34,800 world who i have a lot of respect for 4343 02:53:42,309 --> 02:53:39,680 um i really do but um warning us about 4344 02:53:45,110 --> 02:53:42,319 ai and uh 4345 02:53:47,510 --> 02:53:45,120 general artificial intelligence and 4346 02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:47,520 and the impact that this will have and 4347 02:53:51,990 --> 02:53:49,600 that every country in the world is in a 4348 02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:52,000 race they're in a race and the winner 4349 02:53:56,790 --> 02:53:54,640 the one that crosses the finish line 4350 02:53:58,950 --> 02:53:56,800 all bets are off because everybody else 4351 02:54:00,790 --> 02:53:58,960 is a loser and we need to be very 4352 02:54:02,950 --> 02:54:00,800 careful about this 4353 02:54:06,710 --> 02:54:02,960 a lot of people listen 4354 02:54:09,670 --> 02:54:06,720 to the sam harris's of the world um is 4355 02:54:12,230 --> 02:54:09,680 google listening is darpa listening and 4356 02:54:15,349 --> 02:54:12,240 and is china listening 4357 02:54:16,710 --> 02:54:15,359 and that if if if this is where we are 4358 02:54:20,790 --> 02:54:16,720 going 4359 02:54:23,190 --> 02:54:21,830 you know 4360 02:54:25,750 --> 02:54:23,200 jesus 4361 02:54:26,630 --> 02:54:25,760 when he was here on earth gave us 4362 02:54:29,269 --> 02:54:26,640 um 4363 02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:29,279 two great commandments 4364 02:54:32,710 --> 02:54:30,960 love the lord thy god with all the heart 4365 02:54:35,830 --> 02:54:32,720 might mind and strength 4366 02:54:39,269 --> 02:54:35,840 and the second is like unto it 4367 02:54:40,870 --> 02:54:39,279 right love thy neighbor as thyself 4368 02:54:43,269 --> 02:54:40,880 these are two simple commandments in the 4369 02:54:45,429 --> 02:54:43,279 backdrop of ancient israel which was all 4370 02:54:47,030 --> 02:54:45,439 about the decalogue right you could only 4371 02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:47,040 take so many steps 4372 02:54:52,070 --> 02:54:49,120 in numbers right you could only do 4373 02:54:54,150 --> 02:54:52,080 certain things on the sabbath 4374 02:54:55,429 --> 02:54:54,160 and it was an eye for an eye a tooth for 4375 02:54:57,670 --> 02:54:55,439 a tooth and 4376 02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:57,680 enemies should be killed 4377 02:55:02,790 --> 02:55:00,560 they should be embraced 4378 02:55:04,550 --> 02:55:02,800 so jesus got killed for that right i 4379 02:55:06,550 --> 02:55:04,560 mean he got hung on the cross and maybe 4380 02:55:08,710 --> 02:55:06,560 that was his dharma that was his choice 4381 02:55:11,110 --> 02:55:08,720 that was the experience that he wanted 4382 02:55:12,790 --> 02:55:11,120 to have and maybe was the destiny i 4383 02:55:14,309 --> 02:55:12,800 don't believe maybe i believe absolutely 4384 02:55:17,349 --> 02:55:14,319 it was 4385 02:55:19,990 --> 02:55:17,359 so when we think of it in those terms 4386 02:55:21,830 --> 02:55:20,000 we always forget there's another caveat 4387 02:55:24,230 --> 02:55:21,840 on the end of that after the two great 4388 02:55:26,150 --> 02:55:24,240 commandments and it is judge not lest ye 4389 02:55:29,349 --> 02:55:26,160 be judged with that same judgment you 4390 02:55:33,030 --> 02:55:29,359 cast on others right the moat that is in 4391 02:55:39,030 --> 02:55:36,070 what we judge is what we become i said 4392 02:55:41,990 --> 02:55:39,040 earlier that our judgments inform the 4393 02:55:43,110 --> 02:55:42,000 illusion that we experience 4394 02:55:45,030 --> 02:55:43,120 and 4395 02:55:46,790 --> 02:55:45,040 those judgments are what we will 4396 02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:46,800 continue to attract and experience over 4397 02:55:50,630 --> 02:55:48,080 and over again i can't tell you how many 4398 02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:50,640 times i have whenever i post a picture 4399 02:55:54,469 --> 02:55:52,399 of something that is related to 4400 02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:54,479 hermeticism 4401 02:55:58,389 --> 02:55:56,560 i will often get someone who 4402 02:56:00,710 --> 02:55:58,399 comments on my social media 4403 02:56:03,830 --> 02:56:00,720 and they'll say this is luciferian this 4404 02:56:05,590 --> 02:56:03,840 is satanic right what i do i often go to 4405 02:56:07,830 --> 02:56:05,600 that person's page and i click on it 4406 02:56:09,750 --> 02:56:07,840 just to see what i see 4407 02:56:11,670 --> 02:56:09,760 and i'm never surprised when usually the 4408 02:56:13,410 --> 02:56:11,680 profile picture of that person is in 4409 02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:13,420 fact a demon 4410 02:56:24,870 --> 02:56:20,309 if you spot it 4411 02:56:27,750 --> 02:56:26,630 so well said 4412 02:56:29,349 --> 02:56:27,760 robert 4413 02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:29,359 thank you so much when's the new book 4414 02:56:34,550 --> 02:56:30,720 coming out 4415 02:56:36,230 --> 02:56:34,560 be out in a couple months it's getting 4416 02:56:37,990 --> 02:56:36,240 published i just did a big publishing 4417 02:56:40,230 --> 02:56:38,000 deal on it i can't announce that yet but 4418 02:56:41,910 --> 02:56:40,240 it will be and if you haven't seen the 4419 02:56:45,030 --> 02:56:41,920 tv show i did 4420 02:56:47,269 --> 02:56:45,040 on gaia and on amazon prime it's 4421 02:56:48,950 --> 02:56:47,279 available it's called code x we didn't 4422 02:56:50,389 --> 02:56:48,960 talk about any of my work in egypt but 4423 02:56:52,309 --> 02:56:50,399 i'll happily come back 4424 02:56:53,910 --> 02:56:52,319 and talk about all the work in egypt 4425 02:56:55,110 --> 02:56:53,920 that i've been doing for the last 4426 02:56:57,590 --> 02:56:55,120 several years 4427 02:56:59,830 --> 02:56:57,600 and it is uh it's it's really 4428 02:57:01,030 --> 02:56:59,840 mind-blowing stuff so just look up you 4429 02:57:03,510 --> 02:57:01,040 can google 4430 02:57:05,830 --> 02:57:03,520 code x that's two word code 4431 02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:05,840 x and by the way what's the x mean it's 4432 02:57:10,389 --> 02:57:08,560 not codex one word it's two words x is 4433 02:57:15,429 --> 02:57:10,399 you 4434 02:57:16,710 --> 02:57:15,439 over x we're all divisions of number one 4435 02:57:18,469 --> 02:57:16,720 i can't believe we didn't talk about 4436 02:57:21,670 --> 02:57:18,479 codex tonight and 4437 02:57:23,590 --> 02:57:21,680 uh which which i have seen and i can't 4438 02:57:24,870 --> 02:57:23,600 believe we didn't even touch about that 4439 02:57:27,269 --> 02:57:24,880 also 4440 02:57:30,710 --> 02:57:27,279 uh so we'll bring you back uh we can 4441 02:57:33,670 --> 02:57:30,720 actually just like one episode and and 4442 02:57:36,150 --> 02:57:33,680 pick it apart but i'm going to egypt in 4443 02:57:38,870 --> 02:57:36,160 october 4444 02:57:41,750 --> 02:57:38,880 right yeah with billy and uh i just did 4445 02:57:42,630 --> 02:57:41,760 a a show last night myself without a 4446 02:57:45,510 --> 02:57:42,640 guest 4447 02:57:48,389 --> 02:57:45,520 on the pyramids of egypt and my concept 4448 02:57:51,190 --> 02:57:48,399 my theories and my ideas behind that but 4449 02:57:52,950 --> 02:57:51,200 i'm very excited this is my first trip 4450 02:57:55,429 --> 02:57:52,960 uh to egypt 4451 02:57:59,190 --> 02:57:55,439 and it's something that i know that i've 4452 02:58:01,030 --> 02:57:59,200 researched uh as not as much as i could 4453 02:58:04,230 --> 02:58:01,040 i can always do more 4454 02:58:06,150 --> 02:58:04,240 but no matter what i'm thinking and what 4455 02:58:08,630 --> 02:58:06,160 is it's going to be a totally different 4456 02:58:09,910 --> 02:58:08,640 experience for me and and i'm so looking 4457 02:58:13,269 --> 02:58:09,920 forward to 4458 02:58:16,389 --> 02:58:13,279 to going and and having 4459 02:58:19,670 --> 02:58:16,399 that connection i i'm just i don't know 4460 02:58:22,070 --> 02:58:19,680 what to expect i don't i don't well is 4461 02:58:24,150 --> 02:58:22,080 it your first time yeah first time oh my 4462 02:58:25,830 --> 02:58:24,160 gosh it's gonna definitely change your 4463 02:58:28,150 --> 02:58:25,840 life you know what you know what the 4464 02:58:30,070 --> 02:58:28,160 most special part about this 4465 02:58:33,910 --> 02:58:30,080 it's my birthday 4466 02:58:38,630 --> 02:58:36,870 october 10th is my birthday and we are 4467 02:58:40,550 --> 02:58:38,640 going to be in luxor 4468 02:58:43,030 --> 02:58:40,560 october 10th and then we're going to 4469 02:58:44,830 --> 02:58:43,040 celebrate my birthday on the boat uh uh 4470 02:58:48,150 --> 02:58:44,840 coming back but 4471 02:58:49,190 --> 02:58:48,160 that you know what i mean this is like 4472 02:58:50,870 --> 02:58:49,200 you know what you have to do on your 4473 02:58:53,110 --> 02:58:50,880 birthday what's that if you're going to 4474 02:58:56,389 --> 02:58:53,120 be a luxor make sure you do the balloon 4475 02:58:59,110 --> 02:58:56,399 ride on your birthday oh okay there's a 4476 02:59:01,110 --> 02:58:59,120 balloon ride that goes up at 4am so just 4477 02:59:04,070 --> 02:59:01,120 ask billy to set that up for you 4478 02:59:05,750 --> 02:59:04,080 i'm i'm writing a job out of luxor it is 4479 02:59:08,389 --> 02:59:05,760 epic it's one of the most amazing 4480 02:59:10,790 --> 02:59:08,399 experiences and it is the best analogy i 4481 02:59:12,630 --> 02:59:10,800 can think of as of raising consciousness 4482 02:59:14,469 --> 02:59:12,640 what it really can be like 4483 02:59:16,230 --> 02:59:14,479 and the joy you experience from that you 4484 02:59:18,309 --> 02:59:16,240 know life is it's meant to be 4485 02:59:20,710 --> 02:59:18,319 experienced and loved 4486 02:59:22,630 --> 02:59:20,720 we're here to learn love 4487 02:59:25,110 --> 02:59:22,640 we complicate it with so much other 4488 02:59:27,590 --> 02:59:25,120 stuff but the one message i could say 4489 02:59:29,590 --> 02:59:27,600 across all the mathematics all of the 4490 02:59:33,670 --> 02:59:29,600 stuff in egypt i've ever done we're here 4491 02:59:37,190 --> 02:59:33,680 to learn one thing and one thing only 4492 02:59:39,269 --> 02:59:37,200 and it's how to love and to be loved and 4493 02:59:40,230 --> 02:59:39,279 receive it 4494 02:59:44,990 --> 02:59:40,240 thank you 4495 02:59:47,510 --> 02:59:45,000 robert robert 4496 02:59:49,750 --> 02:59:47,520 edwardgrant.com the links i've lost my 4497 02:59:52,150 --> 02:59:49,760 voice and that doesn't happen often 4498 02:59:53,670 --> 02:59:52,160 all the links are below they're over on 4499 02:59:56,469 --> 02:59:53,680 the website 4500 02:59:58,710 --> 02:59:56,479 robert thank you so much man it was it 4501 03:00:00,630 --> 02:59:58,720 was all that and much more tonight 4502 03:00:03,190 --> 03:00:00,640 thank you have a wonderful night what a 4503 03:00:04,710 --> 03:00:03,200 pleasure to meet you again and i'll be 4504 03:00:06,389 --> 03:00:04,720 happy to come back on again to talk 4505 03:00:08,790 --> 03:00:06,399 about whatever you'd like let's do it 4506 03:00:10,790 --> 03:00:08,800 man thank you so much have a good night 4507 03:00:12,230 --> 03:00:10,800 you too robert thank you so much 4508 03:00:14,230 --> 03:00:12,240 and uh 4509 03:00:16,630 --> 03:00:14,240 now we've just gone bumper to bumper 4510 03:00:18,230 --> 03:00:16,640 i've got to go straight to credits uh 4511 03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:18,240 thank you robert that was just an 4512 03:00:23,429 --> 03:00:20,640 incredible conversation and 4513 03:00:25,269 --> 03:00:23,439 i had high expectations and it exceeded 4514 03:00:27,429 --> 03:00:25,279 everything thank you so much 4515 03:00:29,030 --> 03:00:27,439 and i want to remind everybody that uh 4516 03:00:31,110 --> 03:00:29,040 tomorrow night we've got ralph 4517 03:00:32,070 --> 03:00:31,120 blumenthal of the new york times here 4518 03:00:34,469 --> 03:00:32,080 with us 4519 03:00:36,950 --> 03:00:34,479 and then of course thursday night is 4520 03:00:39,349 --> 03:00:36,960 another fader night with open lines all 4521 03:00:42,389 --> 03:00:39,359 night long i am your host jimmy church 4522 03:00:44,790 --> 03:00:42,399 what a great show tonight it was perfect 4523 03:00:46,550 --> 03:00:44,800 absolutely perfect you guys are so 4524 03:00:49,030 --> 03:00:46,560 spoiled 4525 03:00:52,150 --> 03:00:49,040 i can't say that enough you guys 4526 03:00:53,830 --> 03:00:52,160 you guys are spoiled 4527 03:00:55,670 --> 03:00:53,840 what a perfect show fade to black is 4528 03:00:58,150 --> 03:00:55,680 produced by lj palmer nate dennis and 4529 03:01:01,990 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03:01:34,870 --> 03:01:31,040 i'll see everybody tomorrow night with 4545 03:01:37,110 --> 03:01:34,880 ralph blumenthal thank you robert grant 4546 03:01:39,990 --> 03:01:37,120 incredible until tomorrow night i want 4547 03:01:45,030 --> 03:01:40,000 everybody to be safe